Tricked Out Warmage Build?

[Caliban]

One successfull build I've seen is go into Wild Mage and take Practiced Spellcaster so you never have a penalty to your caster level.

One build concept I've toyed with is giving the warmage a decent wisdom (at least 12, maybe 14 - enough so that a Periapt +4 will let you cast Wall of Force), worship Boccob, and take the Arcane Disciple feat for the Force Domain, which allows you to qualify for Argent Savant (from Complete Arcane) at 10th level - Warmage Edge on top of Force Spell specialization is pretty nice, and Argent Savant is a 5 level prestige class so you max it out before you retire.

Only problem is that as a warmage you are already trying to pump Charisma and Int, and this throws another stat into the mix.

I currently run a Sorcerer 10/Argent Savant4, and it's a pretty nice class. I think it would work well with the Warmage.

 

[TheGogmagog]

I'm definitely filling a niche... there are going to be a number of casters in the group (cleric and arcane rogue types mostly but they love to dip if it gets them somewhere more powerful in the long run) but it looks like I'm going to be the boomstick. I was just seeing if anyone had any ideas about how to broaden him a little.

Runestaffs are one MIC option to broaden spell access.

On top of that with high Charisma and Intelligence, you don't have to be the character who is better of if he keeps his mouth shut in role play encounters. Depending on cleric and rogue's focus, you might even be the front man. I consider them quite dynamic when flat damage isn't the point, and still the best when it is.

+3 damage is almost equal to +1d6, something most casters would go for in a heartbeat. I played one to about 12th level and was adding 7 to damage, which I considered equal to 2d6 that you aren't going to get from playing a sorcerer. Items like the +1 caster level Ioun Stone are just as accessible to the warmage.

 

[DiceGolem]

Personally, I'm a fan of Warmage/Elemental Savant. My original build calls for a Warforged Scout with Mithral Body flavor, but I guess Human will do. The core of all my fun feats was Born of Three Thunders (Complete Arcane), Storm Bolt, and Clap of Thunder (Complete Mage), making it a Electricity/Sonic specialist.

 

[Caliban]

Runestaffs are one MIC option to broaden spell access.

I don't think runestaffs actually do anything for a warmage. Don't the spells on the staff still have to be on your class spell list for you to activate them? And you use your own spell slots to activate them?

Since warmages already have all the spells on their class list available to them (barring spells that are not Open acces) at all times, they wouldn't be able to get any additional benefit from a runestaff.

 

[Thanee]

One build concept I've toyed with is giving the warmage a decent wisdom (at least 12, maybe 14 - enough so that a Periapt +4 will let you cast Wall of Force), worship Boccob, and take the Arcane Disciple feat for the Force Domain, ...

Arcane Disciple is also quite nice with the Travel Domain. In my PnP D&D campaign, there's a Warmage who did that, and it has proven quite useful so far.

In general, Arcane Disciple is a really good feat for a Warmage (only the necessary Wis is a bit of a disadvantage).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Mouseferatu]

I don't think runestaffs actually do anything for a warmage. Don't the spells on the staff still have to be on your class spell list for you to activate them? And you use your own spell slots to activate them?

This is correct. No runestaffs for warmages.

 

[JRR_Talking]

In LG you can be a grey elf, so bonus to dex and Int, ideal for a WM...maybe start with that. 4 auto hit magic missiles a day for d4+5 should see u safely through to next level

 

[griff_goodbeard]

Accelerate Metamagic and Practical Metamagic both require the dragonblood subtype (which isn't that hard to get anymore) but both would be pretty kickass for a warmage.

 

[Kurotowa]

This is correct. No runestaffs for warmages.

OTOH, they can get a lot of use out of Eternal Wands. Those only have the requirement of being an arcane caster to use. It's a nice way to get the use of a spell that isn't on their class list.

 

[Moorcrys]

Personally, I'm a fan of Warmage/Elemental Savant. My original build calls for a Warforged Scout with Mithral Body flavor, but I guess Human will do. The core of all my fun feats was Born of Three Thunders (Complete Arcane), Storm Bolt, and Clap of Thunder (Complete Mage), making it a Electricity/Sonic specialist.

That would be a fun build... I'm not a fan of the Three Thunders dazing problem, and I catch a lot of grief to take a spontaneous caster prestige class that will make me lose 1 caster level of spells. Definitely has flavor though. Thanks

One build concept I've toyed with is giving the warmage a decent wisdom (at least 12, maybe 14 - enough so that a Periapt +4 will let you cast Wall of Force), worship Boccob, and take the Arcane Disciple feat for the Force Domain, ...

Arcane Disciple is also quite nice with the Travel Domain. In my PnP D&D campaign, there's a Warmage who did that, and it has proven quite useful so far.

In general, Arcane Disciple is a really good feat for a Warmage (only the necessary Wis is a bit of a disadvantage).

I've been looking at the Arcane Disciple route... I've been thinking of the Travel domain spells just because the warmage gets no movement boosts and spells like Dimension Door are so useful. The Argent Savant route is interesting too -- couldn't do both but I'll look over the deities list again.

In LG you can be a grey elf, so bonus to dex and Int, ideal for a WM...maybe start with that. 4 auto hit magic missiles a day for d4+5 should see u safely through to next level

If I went the Arcane Disciple route, I might do this, simply to free up some build points to drop into Wisdom. I hate losing that Feat though.

Accelerate Metamagic and Practical Metamagic both require the dragonblood subtype (which isn't that hard to get anymore) but both would be pretty kickass for a warmage.

And play a kobold? Or is there another way through a feat or something? I'm still waiting for my LG cards to arrive in the mail... it's only been a year.

Thanks for all the advice you all!