True Resurrection Question

[ThirdWizard]

In my interpretation of the RAW, it would only work if the commando disintigrated himself or some such thing, destroying his body.

That's how I see it. If his body still exists, then you cannot True Ressurect him from a distance, because it acts as Raise Dead.

Range: Touch
Target: Dead creature touched

But it also adds:

This spell can even bring back creatures whose bodies have been destroyed...

Which allows you to disregard the range in the specific case that the dead creature's body is nonexistant and can't actually be touched, but only in that specific case. If there is a body, you better be able to find it.

 

[DreamChaser]

actually, it allows you to ignore the Target. The range becomes irrelevant at that point.

I agree that True Res only works that way if there is no body to touch.

You also become immune to a lot of spells when you become an object.

Or are you a creature with the "dead" descriptor or condition? That is what the raise dead series of spells implies (even though the rules are amazingly unhelpful when defining dead). After all, if corpses are objects and not creatures, how can they be dead creatures? And thus how could they be valid targets for raise dead?

This is just a fraction of the Warforged Juggernaut resurrection thread. It was hellishly fun and completely absurd.

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[Kae'Yoss]

I'd allow it. A new body is created, the other becomes so much dead meat. Or maybe dead meat with a lot of valuable items.

 

[Dimwhit]

I would allow it, but I think the body would be raised wherever it is currently. Which would put a bit of a damper on the plan.

 

[Darkness]

Hypersmurf should be here shortly to tell you why dead creatures can't take actions. In the meantime:

Why does it matter if you are dead? After all, the rules never say you can't take actions or deal damage while dead. Just keep fighting, and wipe out the enemy

Following this reasoning, the enemy can keep fighting while dead too, ya know.

 

[Darkness]

Could a "commando" get behind enemy lines,
and before he is killed, suicide himself
and be True Resurrected in his home territory?[/B]

In many (but not all) cases, I'd instead suggest:

teleport

or

contingency + teleport

(If you can't cast it yourself, use an item.)

 

[Lord Pendragon]

I'd allow it. A new body is created, the other becomes so much dead meat. Or maybe dead meat with a lot of valuable items.

I agree.

IMO, True Resurrection is a 9th-level spell, on par with Miracle and Wish, as well as costing a whopping 25,000 gp to cast. Not losing a level isn't enough to justify that kind of staggering cost. You don't need the body, flat out.

Though I'm compelled to say that if someone tried to use True Resurrection as, well, as a Teleport spell, he'd probably be brought back with some kind of terrible curse. My God of Life and Death doesn't mind resurrection. But resurrection as a travel spell cheapens the concept of Death enough to irk Him.

 

[Darkness]

I'm compelled to say that if someone tried to use True Resurrection as, well, as a Teleport spell, he'd probably be brought back with some kind of terrible curse. My God of Life and Death doesn't mind resurrection. But resurrection as a travel spell cheapens the concept of Death enough to irk Him.

Or send some inevitables (e.g., marut with fighter levels) after him to teach him the error of his ways.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

In many (but not all) cases, I'd instead suggest:

teleport

or

contingency + teleport

(If you can't cast it yourself, use an item.)

Now that's the difference between a commando and a smart commando. I think we can create a racial (in the sense of D&D races) joke about that one

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I agree.

IMO, True Resurrection is a 9th-level spell, on par with Miracle and Wish, as well as costing a whopping 25,000 gp to cast. Not losing a level isn't enough to justify that kind of staggering cost. You don't need the body, flat out.

Though I'm compelled to say that if someone tried to use True Resurrection as, well, as a Teleport spell, he'd probably be brought back with some kind of terrible curse. My God of Life and Death doesn't mind resurrection. But resurrection as a travel spell cheapens the concept of Death enough to irk Him.

I agree - and with "terrible curse" I mean that said deity would tell the other gods at their next meeting. Divine gossip! And then, they all tell their clerics in the visions. Those clerics tell their flock.

And soon enough, that commando would be the laughing stock of the whole realm.

And as soon as he wants to kill himself, he finds out that all the retainers in the afterlife know of him, too. I'll leave the selection of a nickname of the greatest minds who ever died