True Strike + Improved Trip + improved disarm + Snatch weapon's attack...

[Hypersmurf]

Truestrike is pretty implicit about the spell effect only being applicable to the next "single" attack roll. The melee attack after a trip being a "second" attack roll I don't think the +20 is applicable at that point.

But if you're treated as never having used your attack, then you never made an attack roll...

-Hyp.

 

[hammymchamham]

But if you're treated as never having used your attack, then you never made an attack roll...

-Hyp.

I'd contor with what you said earlier, and say you had it right then:

That refers to the way your attack bonus normally decreases due to iterative attacks.[/B]

 

[Hypersmurf]

I'd contor with what you said earlier, and say you had it right then:

I went from convinced to unconvinced

Hey, it's a momentous occasion - someone with an opinion in the RUles Forum is thinking about changing their mind!

-Hyp.

 

[Celebrim]

I think a rules lawyer could make a solid case for true strike's bonus carrying through to the bonus attack, but I think that this is a pretty clear case of 'letter of the law' not 'spirit of the law'.

I think the 'spirit of the law' is 'using the same base attack bonus', and that situational modifiers can change between the trip and the follow up attack (for instance obviously that the target is prone). Similarly, the situational modifier '+20 insight bonus' from true strike should be going away on the 'spirit of the law' rule that true stike only works for one roll of the die.

But in terms of 'letter of the law', I don't see any way to interpret it but treat True strike as if it was not expended in the attack. But, if some player tried to pull this trick on me, I'd immediately rule that Improved Trip has _no net effect_ (destroying the feat), since the target is obviously still standing _if the trip attack did not in fact happen_.

I hate rules lawyers.

 

[Ukyo the undead]

What I think is that the "extra" attack due to a sucesfull(sp?) improved trip attack is a continuation of this trip attack, so using the same logic of a cleave extra atack.

What happens with the attack bonus of a cleave attack under True strike?


With the snatch weapon, I can clearly see the "its another attack" logic.

 

[Hypersmurf]

What happens with the attack bonus of a cleave attack under True strike?

No True Strike.

-Hyp.