Tuesdays are Supernatural!
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I really liked the second episode. It didn't feel as creepy to me as the first (perhaps that's just a flavor thing... ghostly hitchers freak me out). But I thought that the interaction of the characters was better in this ep. I really like how the two brothers are developing. And I think that it will be this interaction that keeps the show going despite being a freak of the week show.
(And I love the 80/90's rock soundtrack that Dean brings to the show!
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(And I love the 80/90's rock soundtrack that Dean brings to the show!
)I liked the first better, just because it was less obvious. After the opening sequence, my exact thought was "please don't let it be a Wendigo, and while we're at it let's never have vampires or werewolves or any of that crap on this show unless it's a totally campy spoof episode, like when Dracula came to Buffy." And for a while I was excited by the slightly less campy stuff being tossed around (skinwalker, black dog), but no, they did the cheesy cannibal thing. It would've been awesome if they had Robert Carlyle on to do a guest spot though, Ravenous was great.Kaledor said:
Improve it!!!
I would want some connections between episodes, not just schtick! The first two episodes had this. Dad disappeared, while "hunting", the kids go to find him, find the journal, instead, and move on to the location that it points to... but now it's a dead-end! What I want are goals, always being worked towards. Right now, that's finding Dad, and filling him in on what happened to Jess, and seeing what gaps he can fill in. After that, it's finding "The Thing", and figuring out what hurts it!
Along the way, there can be occasional episodes where the (shall we say) "Meta-Plots" don't get advanced, but MOST episodes should relate to the resolution of one or two of these MPs, with occasional episodes that have NO FREAKS, but only advance the Meta-Plots. That gives three basic styles of plot, instead of just one!
1) Kids follow clues to next freak-encounter. They kill the freak, and gain a clue.
2) Kids are doing something else, stumble onto a freak, and slay it. Then they go about their normal lives. No new clues, this week!
3) Kids follow clues, either on Dad or Burning Women, encounter no freaks, but gain some piece(s) of valuable info, which helps them in future episodes.
There! THAT'S what I want!
We;ve got the Motive, Opportunity is easy, now all we need is the Means...
If The Steverooo had written the first couple of episodes, for instance, the first thing that Dean would have done, after getting Sam out of the burning house, would be to sit down and go through Dad's journal, looking for what he was working on, when he LEFT the White Woman. In the last episode, after killing the Wendigo, the cabe would have been carefully searched... They know Dad was coming here, so what happened to him? Did he get et, or what?!?
What leads them to the next episode? I hope they'll tell us, next week, but I doubt it... and even if they do, I suspect that it'll be something stupid like: "Oh, look, I just found a clue in this journal (that I've had for days and days)!"
Shucks, you'd think they would have looked there, first!
So how is the next episode connected? Oh, it's not?
YAWN!
And while we're at it, here are a few more plots for the Meta-Plotted show:
4) A "Day In The Life" show, where the kids are just shown getting along with the problems of daily life. No freaks, no clues, just paying for broken-down auto repairs, getting food, travelling, getting pulled over by cops, and explaining all that odd hardware in the trunk... Now is also a great time for character development. Which kid steals the car parts, and which washes the dishes to pay for the food? (Dean/Sam, is my bet!)
5) A Non-Freak Freak Show: They go in, looking for MP clues, and hear about a missing kid, think it's an "X" Freak, go in to kill it, and discover (Gasp!) that it's a lost-kid-down-the-well, kidnapping, parental abduction, etc.
6) A Day In The Life, pursuing clues. How do they get their information?
7) Encounters with other "Hunters": What? You thought these three were the only ones?
8) Cries For Help!: Someone comes to them, looking for help with a problem... This works best if it's an Anima Sola, or the "Strange Man" who was watching Sam, in Episode 1. That way, instead of "Just another Freak-of-the-Week", it can actually advance the Meta-Plot, as well.
9) Build The Network!: People encountered previously (like the girl and her little brother, from the previous episode, and/or a cop who searches their trunk, or even the black cop from Episode 1) are used to help out, gain information, or whatever. These people already know what's out there... Some of these can be "Cries For Help!", too!
Y'see, a Meta-Plotted show is much better than "Route 666; Two brothers drive across the nation, slaying bad-things wherever they meet!"
Captain Tagon said:
I would want some connections between episodes, not just schtick! The first two episodes had this. Dad disappeared, while "hunting", the kids go to find him, find the journal, instead, and move on to the location that it points to... but now it's a dead-end! What I want are goals, always being worked towards. Right now, that's finding Dad, and filling him in on what happened to Jess, and seeing what gaps he can fill in. After that, it's finding "The Thing", and figuring out what hurts it!
Along the way, there can be occasional episodes where the (shall we say) "Meta-Plots" don't get advanced, but MOST episodes should relate to the resolution of one or two of these MPs, with occasional episodes that have NO FREAKS, but only advance the Meta-Plots. That gives three basic styles of plot, instead of just one!
1) Kids follow clues to next freak-encounter. They kill the freak, and gain a clue.
2) Kids are doing something else, stumble onto a freak, and slay it. Then they go about their normal lives. No new clues, this week!
3) Kids follow clues, either on Dad or Burning Women, encounter no freaks, but gain some piece(s) of valuable info, which helps them in future episodes.
There! THAT'S what I want!
We;ve got the Motive, Opportunity is easy, now all we need is the Means...
If The Steverooo had written the first couple of episodes, for instance, the first thing that Dean would have done, after getting Sam out of the burning house, would be to sit down and go through Dad's journal, looking for what he was working on, when he LEFT the White Woman. In the last episode, after killing the Wendigo, the cabe would have been carefully searched... They know Dad was coming here, so what happened to him? Did he get et, or what?!?
What leads them to the next episode? I hope they'll tell us, next week, but I doubt it... and even if they do, I suspect that it'll be something stupid like: "Oh, look, I just found a clue in this journal (that I've had for days and days)!"
Shucks, you'd think they would have looked there, first!So how is the next episode connected? Oh, it's not?
YAWN!
And while we're at it, here are a few more plots for the Meta-Plotted show:
4) A "Day In The Life" show, where the kids are just shown getting along with the problems of daily life. No freaks, no clues, just paying for broken-down auto repairs, getting food, travelling, getting pulled over by cops, and explaining all that odd hardware in the trunk... Now is also a great time for character development. Which kid steals the car parts, and which washes the dishes to pay for the food? (Dean/Sam, is my bet!)
5) A Non-Freak Freak Show: They go in, looking for MP clues, and hear about a missing kid, think it's an "X" Freak, go in to kill it, and discover (Gasp!) that it's a lost-kid-down-the-well, kidnapping, parental abduction, etc.
6) A Day In The Life, pursuing clues. How do they get their information?
7) Encounters with other "Hunters": What? You thought these three were the only ones?
8) Cries For Help!: Someone comes to them, looking for help with a problem... This works best if it's an Anima Sola, or the "Strange Man" who was watching Sam, in Episode 1. That way, instead of "Just another Freak-of-the-Week", it can actually advance the Meta-Plot, as well.
9) Build The Network!: People encountered previously (like the girl and her little brother, from the previous episode, and/or a cop who searches their trunk, or even the black cop from Episode 1) are used to help out, gain information, or whatever. These people already know what's out there... Some of these can be "Cries For Help!", too!
Y'see, a Meta-Plotted show is much better than "Route 666; Two brothers drive across the nation, slaying bad-things wherever they meet!"
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The anima sola is only superficially similar to what we've seen (i.e. similar in terms of very basic imagery). I think Umbran was more asking how what we've seen has anything to do with a spirit in purgatory, a matyr, Catholic iconography, etc. It also does nothing to explain what you called the "Strange Man."Steverooo said:
Crothian
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So far the two shows have been good, I'm only now watching the second one. I understand that people want more connection between the episodes but should you wait until that doesn't happen before complaining about it? I do find it amusing though that in and episode titled Wendigo, someone wanted there to be something else.
WayneLigon
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Wayside said:
OK, so let me get this straight. You find the Wendigo legend, which has maybe been done in two or three media presentations to date, to be 'old hat', and cannibalism is campy and cheesy instead of horrifying and grotesque? I'd bet money that no more than 1 out of 10 people watching this show even know what a Wendigo is. To them, it's not old hat. It's totally brand new to them, just like the other things the brothers mentioned.
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