Tumble

[0-hr]

Suppose a monk tries to tumble past on orc and a goblin. Both are initially next to him and he chooses to roll vs the orc first.

If the monk makes the check vs the orc but then fails the check vs the goblin, does the orc also get an attack of opporunity?

Tumble at one-half speed as part of normal movement, provoking no attacks of opportunity while doing so. Failure means you provoke attacks of opportunity normally. Check separately for each opponent you move past, in the order in which you pass them (player’s choice of order in case of a tie). Each additional enemy after the first adds +2 to the Tumble DC.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Nope. He's successfully tumbled past the orc already.

 

[0-hr]

What are you referencing other than the quoted text (because I've read that already )?

Edit: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'd just like a reference or a large majority of people (or Hypersmurf) to agree with you.

 

[calypso15]

I agree with Patryn's reading of the quoted text. IMO, it leaves little room for ambiguity.

Calypso

 

[fett527]

I agree with Patryn's reading of the quoted text. IMO, it leaves little room for ambiguity.

Calypso

agreed.

 

[Infiniti2000]

What are you referencing other than the quoted text (because I've read that already )?

Edit: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'd just like a reference or a large majority of people (or Hypersmurf) to agree with you.

I'm also in agreement with Patryn. Think of the consequences of what you're suggesting though. You have to make two Tumble checks and if either fail, you provoke from both?

 

[Hypersmurf]

I can see both readings, and they depend on the reading of 'for each opponent' - whether it's 'for the purpose of each opponent' or 'for the number of each opponent'.

To me, 'purpose' seems the likely answer (as everyone else who's posted agrees) - the check 'for each opponent' is to see whether or not you provoke an AoO from that opponent.

If you read it as 'number', then you make one check for each opponent, and if you fail, then your normal movement provokes AoOs normally.

The main reason I see this as unlikely is because it can involve time travel paradoxes.

Let's say my movement takes me past the goblin, and then twenty feet later, the orc. I roll my Tumble check for the goblin and succeed; I subsequently roll my Tumble check for the orc (at +2 DC) and fail. This means that my movement past the goblin provoked an AoO. The goblin uses his flail to Trip me, successfully... which means I was prone, and could not move past the orc, which means I never rolled and failed the second Tumble check, which means my movement past the goblin didn't provoke an AoO, which means I wasn't tripped.

If we assume that the Tumble check vs the orc is to see whether I provoke an AoO from the orc, no paradox results.

-Hyp.