The Human Target
Adventurer
Wow.
No one hates D&D more than the people who play D&D and post about it online.
No one hates D&D more than the people who play D&D and post about it online.
D&D 5E Tyranny of Dragons Panel at PAX East Today
jcfiala
Explorer
I dunno, I think it's a great idea for a launch adventure. In a game called Dungeons & Dragons, you're working against a Dragon worshiping cult that's trying to bring back the goddess of evil Dragons. I know almost nothing about 5th edition, but I think this sounds like fun.
Alphastream
Adventurer
I'm deleting my earlier comment as on a second read I'm not sure what the person I was quoting meant.
Companies do work hard to come up with reasons why the latest adventure (or adventure path) is greater than the last. WotC does it and Paizo does it.
The concepts of adventure paths go back at least as early as Dragonlance, and arguably earlier. As companies push that concept of a series of experiences, they inevitably have to try to argue this one is "can't miss".
But, honestly, the industry does constantly refine its approach. Newer efforts do tend to bring in new ideas and hone old ones, making them better. Many of the classics of old are really dated when compared to today's efforts (most of which don't benefit from the same static environment enjoyed in the 70's 80's, where an adventure remained on store shelves for decades). It is also interesting to see how companies cross-pollinate. The 'adventure path" term was coined while Paizo collaborated with Wizards of the Coast, and the two companies continue to learn from one another's efforts.
One more thing: the tendency of us old hats is to hold onto our earlier experiences as sacred and true, and to see (because of our experience) the possible issues with something new. But, we aren't the only audience. In fact, it is increasingly seeming as if both Paizo and WotC want to focus on the newer and casual gamer, and to have a very complicated interrelationship between RPGs and other forms of media. This could all be very good for our hobby, and it is fairly new. We should likely be in a learning mode here, and will need to see what happens with audiences other than our own core before we know whether they succeed or not. Looking at PAX over the the years, we see an increasingly diverse audience showing up to play D&D, especially younger casual players. They seem only partially aware of the various forms of play, but these new efforts may change that.
Companies do work hard to come up with reasons why the latest adventure (or adventure path) is greater than the last. WotC does it and Paizo does it.
The concepts of adventure paths go back at least as early as Dragonlance, and arguably earlier. As companies push that concept of a series of experiences, they inevitably have to try to argue this one is "can't miss".
But, honestly, the industry does constantly refine its approach. Newer efforts do tend to bring in new ideas and hone old ones, making them better. Many of the classics of old are really dated when compared to today's efforts (most of which don't benefit from the same static environment enjoyed in the 70's 80's, where an adventure remained on store shelves for decades). It is also interesting to see how companies cross-pollinate. The 'adventure path" term was coined while Paizo collaborated with Wizards of the Coast, and the two companies continue to learn from one another's efforts.
One more thing: the tendency of us old hats is to hold onto our earlier experiences as sacred and true, and to see (because of our experience) the possible issues with something new. But, we aren't the only audience. In fact, it is increasingly seeming as if both Paizo and WotC want to focus on the newer and casual gamer, and to have a very complicated interrelationship between RPGs and other forms of media. This could all be very good for our hobby, and it is fairly new. We should likely be in a learning mode here, and will need to see what happens with audiences other than our own core before we know whether they succeed or not. Looking at PAX over the the years, we see an increasingly diverse audience showing up to play D&D, especially younger casual players. They seem only partially aware of the various forms of play, but these new efforts may change that.
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JohnduBois
First Post
While I haven't scoured the details of the new adventure path, I'll say this: Every detail I saw or browsed on Twitter reminded me, in a good way, of a previous play experience I remember fondly.
Even if this rollout isn't perfect (and we have no evidence to suggest it will be given previous digital initiatives on the part of Wizards), I'll get additional tools to create a good play experience for myself and my friends. And that's what I pay for when I buy RPG products.
Even if this rollout isn't perfect (and we have no evidence to suggest it will be given previous digital initiatives on the part of Wizards), I'll get additional tools to create a good play experience for myself and my friends. And that's what I pay for when I buy RPG products.
Plaguescarred
D&D Playtester for WoTC since 2012
More info on Tyranny of Dragons from the Tyranny of Dragons Design Contest http://contest.welovefine.com/contest/78-dungeons-dragons-design-contest#.U00n1VV5PpB
Zulithe
Explorer
Well... the art is pretty nice. Tyranny of Dragons could be interesting, I do like that they are hitting heavy with the iconic beasts out of the gate, but disappointed otherwise. It's time they start ramping up the hype for the new edition. I want to know what their plans are for companion apps on phones/tablets/computers and online services are. I play online these days, and those are all important to me.
The way they handled all these issues with 4e was a total joke, but this time they really have no excluse. They know what they need to do to support their game in the modern world, and they can't put it all on the back burner like last time.
I know it wasn't a straight up 5e panel, but there needs to be one, or something akin to it, and hopefully soon.
The way they handled all these issues with 4e was a total joke, but this time they really have no excluse. They know what they need to do to support their game in the modern world, and they can't put it all on the back burner like last time.
I know it wasn't a straight up 5e panel, but there needs to be one, or something akin to it, and hopefully soon.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
No, just an Art of the Dungeon Master panel.
