Unconsciousness, 2nd Wind Via Healing Skill

[Xyrlove Woodsoul]

Can an unconscious character use his or her 2nd Wind, via someone using the Healing skill on him or her, given that it doesn't cost the character using it in this manner, an action, and says nothing about a character not being able to use a 2nd Wind when unconscious? (or if it does I'm blind).

 

[mneme]

Can an unconscious character use his or her 2nd Wind, via someone using the Healing skill on him or her, given that it doesn't cost the character using it in this manner, an action, and says nothing about a character not being able to use a 2nd Wind when unconscious? (or if it does I'm blind).

Yep. This is SOP.

The "stablize" option is for when the unconcious teammate has already used Second Wind.

 

[DracoSuave]

This is correct.

Dying denies you the ability to take actions, but things that do not require actions to take are still doable.

 

[Zustiur]

Yep. This is SOP.

The "stablize" option is for when the unconcious teammate has already used Second Wind.

This exact question came up in our last game. We couldn't find a satisfactory answer from the rules. What does SOP mean?

 

[Mad Hamish]

Standard Operating Procedure

 

[Dan'L]

Yes, it is explicitly stated in the rules under the Heal Skill (PHB p. 185) that a DC 10 Heal check can trigger Second Wind for an unconscious character who has not yet used it during the encounter. Do note, however, that the character does not get any bonus to defenses if their Second Wind is triggered in this fashion.

-Dan'L

 

[Prestidigitalis]

given that it doesn't cost the character using it in this manner, an action

It costs the party something, namely an action. Healing in 4e is balanced around the party, not the individual. Otherwise, Leaders would have no more healing powers than any other classes.

 

[Xyrlove Woodsoul]

Well, that's ironic because what prompted my OP, was the leader in the group going down. Our juice!

 

[Colmarr]

Well, that's ironic because what prompted my OP, was the leader in the group going down. Our juice!

Not as ironic as you think.

In fact, having your leader face-down is probably the #1 cause of Heal checks on unconscious PCs

 

[Aulirophile]

Indeed. There are a number of people I know whose leaders in their group, one and all, have an item that allows Heal checks performed on the wearer to be rolled twice (or something close to that). The ONLY time this item sees any use is when they force the leader to SW while down.