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5E Unearthed Arcana: Drakewarden and Way of the Ascendant Dragon

We have a new UA available today, this time showcasing new monk and ranger dragon-themed subclasses, in the Way of the Ascendant Dragon and the Drakewarden, respectively.

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Interesting to note that these are both dragon adjacent subclasses. Is this foreshadowing for an upcoming product? Or just coincidence?
 
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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
Huh. Well, we do know they were working with Hickman and Weis on a new Dragonlance trilogy... Maybe despite deciding not to move forward with that product they’re still planning to release a Dragonlance setting book that would have tied in with it?

EDIT: The subclasses themselves are pretty cool. I like the draconic monk a lot, seems very powerful. The drakewarden is basically a dragon-taming take on the beastmaster with one of the souped-up beast companion stat blocks. The drake even gets large enough to mount at 15th level, which is awesome.
 
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Remathilis

Legend
Dragonlance confi.... Doh!

Way to late for Tasha, and the dragon theme doesn't jive with the gothic one of the last. No idea where they are going return this...
 

Just got done reading through them and honestly what bugs me the worst about this is that the Dragon Monk totally craps all over a Wyvern Monk idea I was working up for DM’s Guild. tosses notes in the trash 😂

On a more serious note (not that my pain isn’t serious) I’m still not sure how I feel about these yet. Drakewarden just feels like a dialed-in, beefed-up Beastmaster for the most part. Interesting that your dragon buddy starts off small and then grows to large at high levels. Just gonna give medium size a total miss eh?
 




Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
On a more serious note (not that my pain isn’t serious) I’m still not sure how I feel about these yet. Drakewarden just feels like a dialed-in, beefed-up Beastmaster for the most part. Interesting that your dragon buddy starts off small and then grows to large at high levels. Just gonna give medium size a total miss eh?
That’s good feedback. They could easily tack growing to medium size onto an earlier class feature in a later draft.
 



That’s good feedback. They could easily tack growing to medium size onto an earlier class feature in a later draft.
I was honestly wondering if the small size in the stat block was a typo or oversight and I re-read it a couple of times to make sure I didn't miss something in there. Considering the companion can potentially grow wings before the size jump happens, maybe they just wanted to avoid the problems of small sized PC races with flying mounts? That was honestly the first thing I thought of.

Vaguely all sorts of different non-Japanese Asian cultures.

The first version was based about Kahn's, but the second (timely wimey) was about dragons.
Fair enough. I have been out of the Magic loop from about 1998 or so until recently when I got back in via Arena so I don't really know the lore of most of the settings I haven't seen firsthand.
 




Kobold Avenger

Adventurer
-For the Ascendant Dragon it looks like another attempt at lets see about fixing something that's broken with the Way of the Elements. I see use for prof bonus times or once per long rest before spending ki as one way I'd might fix that subclass.
-I know they're trying to be non-specific about dragon types while only referencing the core 10 dragons, but I feel they should have thunder included especially for the Ascendant Dragon. I know none of the core 10 do thunder damage, but some of the Lung dragon types might, which would be more thematically tied to this subclass.
-I like the Drakewarden as a better version of the Beastmaster with a tighter them.
-I guess they could be trying again for another Draconomicon in 5e.
 

Interesting (from Draconic Discipline):
Once this feature turns a failure into a successs, you can’t use it again until you finish a long rest.

Have we seen that particular mechanic, i.e. "use it until it succeeds", anywhere else? I like it.

The other thing to note is that the higher level abilities all get one or more free uses, and then you can use them additional times by spending Ki. This seems to address the criticism of Monks and Sorcerers (which I initially resisted, but now agree with) about sub-class abilities that drain base-class resources.

EDIT: Ok, I'm kinda jonesing to play this monk now.
 

Vael

Hero
I like these. The dragon theme is well done, but not too intrusive (The dragon monk can become a replacement elemental theme) and I'm liking this version of a ranger with a pet.
 

This may be for a future Draconomicon, or even a reboot of "Council of Wyrms" based in Chris Perkins' (homebrew setting) Iomandra. I advice to allow some space to add later the rest of all true dragons, even the forgotten from previous editions (for example the brainstealer, the cobra dragon or the rainbow dragon). It shouldn't be difficult if we add more planets in the same crystal sphere.

I wish the return of Dragonlance, and I guess this should be a logic step because this franchise in the right hands may become one of the best cash-cows by Hasbro. WotC should explain that door still is open but we have to await a little time more.

You know more of one player wants to be a dragon rider, or a pokemon-trainer/digimon tamer with dragons as monster pets. And always there is a player who wants something more exotic, for example a no-core dragon as monster ally: imperial lung, planar, gem, outer(stellar, radiant, sun, moon..).

Wouldn't you like dragonborn subraces based in no-core dragons? Nor metallic neither chromatic, but other type, as lungs, planar, gem, outer...

I miss the dragons as monster classes from Dragon magazine.
 


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