D&D (2024) Unearthed Arcana Playtest Packet 7 Live on D&D Beyond

New Dungeons & Dragons playtest packet includes updated classes for Barbarian, Fighter, Sorcerer, Warlock, and Wizard

Wizards of the Coast posted the seventh playtest packet for the 2024 update to Dungeons & Dragons. The new playtest packet includes updated class material for the Barbarian, Fighter, Sorcerer, Warlock, and Wizard classes.

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Highlights for each class:

Barbarian
  • New Path of the World Tree subclass and updated Berserker, Wild Heart (formerly Totem Warrior), and Zealot subclasses.
  • Attack recklessly for a full round rather than just one turn.
  • Path of the Wild Heart (formerly Path of the Totem Warrior) has updated options.
  • Brutal Critical gets damage buffs.

Fighter
  • New Brawler subclass excels at using improvised weapons and unarmed strikes.
  • Tactical Mind and Tactical Shift expand the use of Second Wind.
  • Studied Attacks grants advantage on an attack roll against an enemy after you've missed an attack against them.
  • Battle Master and its maneuvers have been updated.

Sorcerer
  • Innate Sorcery empowers your spellcasting for a limited time.
  • Sorcery Incarnate and Arcane Apotheosis boost your Metamagic while Innate Sorcery is active.
  • Sorcerous Restoration is available at 5th level and scales with your sorcerer level.
  • Wild Magic Sorcery now more reliably allows you to roll on the Wild Magic Surge table.

Warlock
  • Pact Magic is back.
  • Eldritch Invocations are now available at 1st level and your options have been revised.
  • Pact Boons are now invocations, and Mystic Arcanum is once again a class feature.
  • Patron Spells are always prepared.
  • Updated Archfey Patron, Celestial Patron, Fiend Patron, Great Old One Patron subclasses.

Wizard
  • Spellcasting feature now allows you to swap out a cantrip each long rest.
  • Memorize Spell is now a feature. Modify Spell and Create spell have been nixed.
  • Updated Abjurer, Diviner, Evoker, and Illusionist subclasses.
Universal changes include a return to class spell lists, more features from Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything, and update to some of the spells including arcane eruption, sorcerous burst, counterspell, and jump.

The official Dungeons & Dragons YouTube account also posted an almost 90-minute-long video doing a deep dive on the playtest packet.

 

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Darryl Mott

Darryl Mott

I think you are seriously underestimating the utility.
I'm literally not.

I can do maths.

So I know exactly how powerful it is, sorry.
Use this in combo with the battle master's commanding Prescence maneuver, and suddenly you have a fighter so smooth talking that even the bard has to show respect (Persuasion +1d8 +1d10, an average +10 to a check!)
So by blowing a bunch of resources, you can get a bonus to one roll that you probably aren't proficient in, AND likely don't have a good stat for? Amazing lol.

That is an uncompelling example. If you were say, level 5, the Bard probably has +4 CHA and Expertise in Persuasion, so +6 PB, so his BASE bonus is +10, and you had to blow two resource-using abilities to even equal his base bonus? You're proving my point completely! The math does not at all support your content that it's "seriously" good ability. The Bard absolutely does NOT need to respect that in the least. It would bizarre to "respect" burning stuff to merely equal his position for one roll. Even if he doesn't have Expertise, he has +7, which is very close.

It's a very mediocre ability, but it's certainly better than nothing - let's be clear on that!

You're better off using it on something you're good at but barely fail the roll for, I'd suggest. That's what it's nice for. Unfortunately Fighters remain good at "not much".

The brawler's main problem is the same as the monk, the game assumes that having weapon equivalency without weapons is somehow a "benefit"....but in 99% of circumstances its not (and technically you can't get d8 damage without giving up a shield....which is terrible). The abilities look fun, but at the end of the day a 3rd level brawler doesn't get anything that a fighter with a few weapons doesn't have the vast majority of the time. Its not until 7th that things start getting interesting.
Exactly.

Crawford just has some kind of mental problem here (like a block or blind spot or an irrational hatred). He absolutely cannot process this very simple and indisputable fact - the bolded bit.

5E has consistently since day one and with no let-up wildly overvalued unarmed combat and natural weapons. Insanely overvalued. It also overvalues stuff like casting without components. I can only think Crawford's home game features PCs getting tied up and naked (not kink-shaming! If that's what you're into, more power to ya bud!), like literally every other session, like it's a late-season episode of Golden Kamuy or something.

There's just no explanation otherwise. I laughed out loud at the "You can get d8 but only if no shield!", because GOD FORBID a Fighter specialized in brawling did the same damage as one just randomly picking up whatever d8 weapon they wanted.
 

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Stalker0

Legend
So by blowing a bunch of resources, you can get a bonus to one roll that you probably aren't proficient in, AND likely don't have a good stat for? Amazing lol.
There are plenty of backgrounds that give persuasion bonuses, so if your going for the face roll, that's a given. Cha is likely to be a 12 for this kind of face, as I agree its not going to be a high priority, though a Fighter 3/Paladin build is interesting as then you would have a charisma focus.

So the fighter normally has to overcome a +6 bonus advantage for the bard, which it can on occasion. now yes they can't do it as much as the bard (the bard IS the social class after all), but on a few key rolls they do have a stronger check than even the bard does. That is a pretty solid improvement to me.
 

There are plenty of backgrounds that give persuasion bonuses, so if your going for the face roll, that's a given.
What do you mean "persuasion bonus"? You mean blowing one of your four Skill slots on duplicating the Bard/Warlock/Paladin/Sorcerer's Persuasion?

So the fighter normally has to overcome a +6 bonus advantage for the bard, which it can on occasion. now yes they can't do it as much as the bard (the bard IS the social class after all), but on a few key rolls they do have a stronger check than even the bard does. That is a pretty solid improvement to me.
It's not. You're still not thinking about the mechanics carefully enough. Any Fighter who has Persuasion as a skill, which you seem to be suggesting is a great idea, is better off using the Help action almost 100% of the time, to Help the Bard, and thus give the Bard Advantage, and thus a much higher overall bonus.

Tactical Mind has a use - for when you just barely fail an Athletics check or some other unavoidable check. It's not at all well-suited for trying to go "Face Mode" or something.
 

Stalker0

Legend
What do you mean "persuasion bonus"? You mean blowing one of your four Skill slots on duplicating the Bard/Warlock/Paladin/Sorcerer's Persuasion?


It's not. You're still not thinking about the mechanics carefully enough. Any Fighter who has Persuasion as a skill, which you seem to be suggesting is a great idea, is better off using the Help action almost 100% of the time, to Help the Bard, and thus give the Bard Advantage, and thus a much higher overall bonus.

Tactical Mind has a use - for when you just barely fail an Athletics check or some other unavoidable check. It's not at all well-suited for trying to go "Face Mode" or something.
well if by "blowing the skill slot" you mean "become better at persuasion"....then yes. I mean if your a fighter who wants to also be a face, getting persuasion seems like the thing you do. did the bard "blow" their expertise slot to get persuasion? No....because that's what they want to be good at. So why is that different for the fighter?

Sure if there is a bard in the party who is focused on being the face, I agree its better to aid them. No one is saying the fighter is now the king of the face roll. However, now the fighter can be the party's face if there is no bard or paladin AND still bring all of the fighter power to the table. Or of course they can spend that +1d10 on other checks if and when needed.
 

Tactical Mind has a use - for when you just barely fail an Athletics check or some other unavoidable check. It's not at all well-suited for trying to go "Face Mode" or something.
I think that if someone were to play a Cha 14 Fighter for conceptual reasons, at least this lets them chase that dream. I know, I know, you only ever need one specialist in a party, but... the party might not have Bards in it, in which case you might actually be that person.

(and with the increased pressure for everyone to multiclass into Warlock for 1 level, Cha 14 might not actually be completely wasted)
 

So why is that different for the fighter?
Becasuse they have a low CHA unlike the 33% of classes who have a high CHA? I've never even seen a 5E party which didn't have a CHA class in it, and odds-wise, it's quite unlikely.

That'd be the only time it made sense on more than an RP/thematic level. And you're obviously fine to do that. Just don't say it makes mechanical sense when it doesn't!
Sure if there is a bard in the party who is focused on being the face, I agree its better to aid them. No one is saying the fighter is now the king of the face roll. However, now the fighter can be the party's face if there is no bard or paladin AND still bring all of the fighter power to the table. Or of course they can spend that +1d10 on other checks if and when needed.
No Bard, no Paladin, no Sorcerer, no Warlock.

What are the odds? Low. And no they can't bring "all of the Fighter power" because to do what you're suggesting they need to:

A) Put points in CHA.
B) Pick Persuasion as a Skill
C) Be a Battlemaster and no other subclasses
D) They can do this once or twice per Short Rest (at the cost of getting HP back!), so you'd better hope the entire encounter rests on a SINGLE social roll!

It's really not for pretending to be a Face.
(and with the increased pressure for everyone to multiclass into Warlock for 1 level, Cha 14 might not be completely wasted)
I mean there is that, why have STR at all? Just go CHA, 1 level dip in Warlock, Blade Pact and your multi-attacks are delayed by one level but everything is going off CHA and you can choose to do Radiant or Necrotic damage!
 

I don't like Tactical Mind's design because it's just spammable bigger numbers. It solves things, but it feels soulless and encourages already skillful classes to 2-level dip for Action Surge + Tactical Mind to boost their actual main stat + expertise numbers even higher.

I would've been happier to see it embrace something like leader of men / teamwork angle, where you can try a skill first, and then delegate it to a party member if your unimpressive numbers cannot keep up.

I mean there is that, why have STR at all? Just go CHA, 1 level dip in Warlock, Blade Pact and your multi-attacks are delayed by one level but everything is going off CHA and you can choose to do Radiant or Necrotic damage!
...oh yeah, they kept Blade Pact at lv1, nevermind, would've been fine with BG3's lv3...
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
well if by "blowing the skill slot" you mean "become better at persuasion"....then yes. I mean if your a fighter who wants to also be a face, getting persuasion seems like the thing you do. did the bard "blow" their expertise slot to get persuasion? No....because that's what they want to be good at. So why is that different for the fighter?

Sure if there is a bard in the party who is focused on being the face, I agree its better to aid them. No one is saying the fighter is now the king of the face roll. However, now the fighter can be the party's face if there is no bard or paladin AND still bring all of the fighter power to the table. Or of course they can spend that +1d10 on other checks if and when needed.
Being a viable build is cool, doesn't take away from other Class options.

I can think of plenty of other applications: Animal Handling, Survival, Stealth, Acrobatics. Really just gives the Foghter the chance to be overall competent, without stepping on the Rogues Skillmaster role.
 


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