Unseen Servant spell question

[Greenfield]

Strength check? What DC would you set for a glass vial? (Not challenging, just curious).

Technically, a CdG doesn't call for an attack roll, so yes an Unseen Servant could make one.

But if there is such a thing as RAI, the intent is clear.

<tangent>I once played in a 1st ed game where a new player tried to join. After finding that we didn't play by the house rules he wished we would, he quit in a rage. He announced that his character was killing someone in his sleep, and that the Wizard's spell books were going into the fire.

We asked him how this was happening, and he said he'd simply slit the guy's throat. We pointed out that, by the book, he was attempting an assassination and that the rules covered this under the old Assassination table. He'd be working as a level 0 assassin, by the rules.

"I'm not assassinating him, I'm just killing him.", he insisted. To him, there was a distinction. </tangent>

The reason for the tangent was that this discussion kind of reminds me of that scene. "The US isn't attacking him, it's just hitting him with burning wood/boiling water/corrosive poison". To me, these are wonderful examples of the classic, "Distinction without a difference."

But then, I'm not your DM.

 

[Tharkon]

Strength check? What DC would you set for a glass vial? (Not challenging, just curious).

Hmm... without any tools breaking a vial isn't that incredibly easy, especially not if its round and closed (if its open it doesn't need to be compressed and that makes it easier). But it's probably something an average person could do given enough time. If I had to pick a number right now..., lucky number 7. But dropping a vial or smashing it together with a stone you're also holding probably is automatic success.

Technically, a CdG doesn't call for an attack roll, so yes an Unseen Servant could make one.

But if there is such a thing as RAI, the intent is clear.

RAI is very clear, and even RAW made sure in this case, cause it specifically forbids making attacks actions and making attack roles.

<tangent>I once played in a 1st ed game where a new player tried to join. After finding that we didn't play by the house rules he wished we would, he quit in a rage. He announced that his character was killing someone in his sleep, and that the Wizard's spell books were going into the fire.

We asked him how this was happening, and he said he'd simply slit the guy's throat. We pointed out that, by the book, he was attempting an assassination and that the rules covered this under the old Assassination table. He'd be working as a level 0 assassin, by the rules.

"I'm not assassinating him, I'm just killing him.", he insisted. To him, there was a distinction. </tangent>

My first impression of 1E based on this is... it's weird.

As for the spell that Lyrad is looking for. Just create a new monster and add it to the Summon Monster table appropriate for its power.