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D&D General UPDATE: this isn't greenlit : Jeff Grubb's Lost Mystara Sourcebook To Be Released

Ex-TSR designer Jeff Grubb wrote a Known World of Mystara sourcebook for AD&D 2E that was sadly never published. But now WotC has given permission for it's release to Shawn Stanley of the Vaults of Pandius website, the Official Mystara Homepage! Grubb posted on Facebook: "A long time ago I wrote a project for TSR converting the Known World of Mystara from D&D to AD&D 2nd Edition. Through a...

Ex-TSR designer Jeff Grubb wrote a Known World of Mystara sourcebook for AD&D 2E that was sadly never published. But now WotC has given permission for it's release to Shawn Stanley of the Vaults of Pandius website, the Official Mystara Homepage!

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Grubb posted on Facebook:

"A long time ago I wrote a project for TSR converting the Known World of Mystara from D&D to AD&D 2nd Edition. Through a tale of woe and intrigue, (link below) that product was never completed, and instead became Karameikos, Kingdom of Adventure.

However, I kept a copy of the unfinished manuscript (well, print-out), and a short while ago, gave it to Shawn Stanley, who runs the Pandius Website. He in turn has cleaned it up a bit, and plans to release it, free, with WotC's blessing, to fans on the website's anniversary.

It is really nice to see this surface after so many years - it is a "Lost Tome" of D&D history, and I hope fans of the setting enjoy it."


He speaks more about the story, and why he left TSR, on his blog.

Mystara is a D&D campaign setting first published in the early 1980s, and was the 'default' setting for D&D for a long time.


Updates from @Dungeonosophy

Jeff Grubb gives an overview of the book on his blog

As for the release date: Shawn Stanley, Webmaster of the Vaults of Pandius, announced (here) that June 27th is the planned release date.

Some people were wondering if Jeff is involved in the release.

I reached out to Shawn Stanley on April 10th:
"Yes I was going to reach out to him with respect to providing some sort of foreword for the release. I had been intending to do so once I had finished the graphic design - but with the release of new news yesterday, I reached out to him yesterday. I also wanted to get his okay for the editing that I had done. But yes, I would think that anything that Jeff wants to write to accompany the document would be a great idea. I do kind of agree that something a little bit less-depressing than the blog posts might be preferable - something to celebrate the release than recall the negative things that had happened during that time."
"I do hope that he will agree."


Jeff also responded to me on April 10th:
"Shawn has been in touch with me, and I will be glad to write a brief foreword for the project."

Which will be a fulfillment of Jeff's offer back in 2019:
"If you succeed [with the petition], I will be glad to provide an intro with a less-depressing history of the project."

Note Vaults of Pandius is the Official Mystara Homepage! Given that designation by WotC, back in the 2000s, when Jim Butler was managing fan policy for "other worlds." There's an official agreement and everything. That's why the site is the natural host for this.

UPDATE:
WotC's approval of this sourcebook's release have been premature, i.e. it isn't greenlit.
 

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Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
The guy who told them he would withhold any future approvals had his last day at WotC last week. He was the subject of a number of very nasty controversies, with the Dragonlance lawsuit being one of the least dramatic, so good riddance.

Ooooo now that is interesting! Who's the guy?

Guess I'm probably wrong then, and WotC could be putting it under a bridge and stampeding forward with "legacy stuff makes us moar $$$"
 

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AdmundfortGeographer

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Fantastic news! I have huge hopes that there might have been some material fleshing out the Heldann Freeholds. It might be too much to hope for Atruaghin to get a repair.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
The guy who told them he would withhold any future approvals had his last day at WotC last week. He was the subject of a number of very nasty controversies, with the Dragonlance lawsuit being one of the least dramatic, so good riddance.
For anyone wanting more information about this, Star City Games wrote a brief article about it.

 

Fantastic news! I have huge hopes that there might have been some material fleshing out the Heldann Freeholds. It might be too much to hope for Atruaghin to get a repair.

In the meantime, there's a ton of Heldann materials which Bruce Heard was going to put into the Heldann Gazetteer before it was cancelled, which he posted at the Vaults:
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
What?!? I hadn’t heard that!

Ooooo now that is interesting! Who's the guy?

Guess I'm probably wrong then, and WotC could be putting it under a bridge and stampeding forward with "legacy stuff makes us moar $$$"
Like @Alzrius says, Nic Kelman is out of WotC. He was at the heart of the debacle with Dragonlance, in addition to the whole War of the Spark story...thing...that caused Magic to basically kill their metaplot tie-in stories for retooling thanks to fan backlash. Among other less pleasant things.
 

cbwjm

Seb-wejem
Like @Alzrius says, Nic Kelman is out of WotC. He was at the heart of the debacle with Dragonlance, in addition to the whole War of the Spark story...thing...that caused Magic to basically kill their metaplot tie-in stories for retooling thanks to fan backlash. Among other less pleasant things.
Really? Was the war of the spark not well received? I thought it had ended nicely in an epic battle between the forces of good and evil.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Really? Was the war of the spark not well received? I thought it had ended nicely in an epic battle between the forces of good and evil.
The Set, it was fine. The novels were...um... controversial. Pandered a bit to the interests of certain large authoritarian governments, in addition to just being. So. Badly. Written. Badly written by the standards of game tie in novels. Tolarian Community College did a pretty through critique of the novels as novels, I'd recommend those reviews, though I didn't bother reading the second one which was the controversial rather than merely mediocre book.

Internet chatter aside, WotC actually cancelled a Theros novel because of the reception of the War of the Spark books, so... not bolstering the brand.
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
Thanks, could we keep this thread on its original topic going forward? Feel free to post a new thread if others want to continue the other topic.
Absolutely! I'm...not sure how that happened, bit it felt natural along the way?

On topic, this book is probably going to be perfectly useable for 5E, thinking on it, as the unpolished parts are going to be the 2E game stats, while the flavor is probably ready for primetime.
 

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