[UPDATED] A Savage D&D 5E Campaign Setting From the Makers of PRINCES OF THE APOCALYPSE

Sasquatch Game Studios - made up of WotC alumni Dave Noonan, Richard Baker, and Stephen Schubert - is the company which produced Princes of the Apocalypse for WotC. Now they're turning their eyes towards a 288-page full-colour hardcover setting. This will be a D&D 5th Edition version of their Howard/Lovecraft inspired Primeval Thule campaign setting which already exists for Pathfinder, 13th Age, and D&D 4E.

Sasquatch Game Studios - made up of WotC alumni Dave Noonan, Richard Baker, and Stephen Schubert - is the company which produced Princes of the Apocalypse for WotC. Now they're turning their eyes towards a 288-page full-colour hardcover setting. This will be a D&D 5th Edition version of their Howard/Lovecraft inspired Primeval Thule campaign setting which already exists for Pathfinder, 13th Age, and D&D 4E.

UPDATE: The Kickstarter is live!

Primeval Thule
is described as a "savage, intense campaign setting". With influences from the likes of Conan and Cthulhu, it's an "dangerous place full of barbaric wilderness, decadent city-states, horrific monsters, and eldritch mysteries". If you're a fan of pulp fantasy and horror, Conan the Barbarian, Kull of Atlantis, Hyperborea, Tarzan, and Lovecraft's alien gods, you should enjoy this. Add in a healthy dose of Burroughs' Pellucidar and the Land That Time Forgot, plus the art styles of Frank Frazetta and the likes, and you'll get the idea.

Sasquatch will be producing a 288-page hardcover book in full colour, with a continental poster map. It will contain more than 40 new monsters, plus the range of spells, magic items, and all the other stuff you'd expect to see in a campaign setting. It'll be the first fully-fledged campaign setting for D&D 5E.

They're doing this via a Kickstarter next week. The exact launch date is not decided yet, but it's only a few days away. As Dave Noonan says, "We're going to fulfill this fast! Because this is a new version of a book we've already published, most of the text and all of the art is already done. We'll send files to the printing press as soon as the Kickstarter campaign closes and we know how many books we need." Like others dipping into 5E publishing, the Open Gaming License will be used.

The existing versions of the setting contain a new character race (the Atlanteans), 19 "heroic narratives", over 40 monsters, 3 adventures, a city called Quodeth, City of Thieves, and a continent of "savage adventure".

Below is an image of the Pathfinder version of Primeval Thule. I don't know if the 5E version will look the same, but the 13th Age and 4E version do, so it's a safe bet.

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"Welcome to Thule, a primordial land of fierce barbarians, elder horrors, and savage wilderness. In this ancient age, humankind is a young race, newly arisen on a monster-haunted Earth. Cities of cruel splendor lie scattered across the great lands of the north like a handful of gems strewn from a dead thief's hand.

This is a doomed age, a time of great deeds and inhuman terror destined to be lost and forgotten beneath the numbing cloak of endless winter. But for one glittering moment, Thule lives—and it is a fierce, cruel, splendid, and marvelous moment indeed."


More information as I get it!
 

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TheSwartz

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Considering how WotC has treated others making 5e stuff, I still don't understand how this is being done legally. Maybe something very cool is about to be announced????!!!!
 

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S_Dalsgaard

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Considering how WotC has treated others making 5e stuff, I still don't understand how this is being done legally. Maybe something very cool is about to be announced????!!!!

What are you referring to? I haven't heard that for example Book of Lost Spells and Fifth Edition Foes has resulted in any problems for Frog God Games and I assume Morrus would have mentioned it, if En5ider had gotten any C&Ds.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
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What are you referring to? I haven't heard that for example Book of Lost Spells and Fifth Edition Foes has resulted in any problems for Frog God Games and I assume Morrus would have mentioned it, if En5ider had gotten any C&Ds.

He's referring to some fan created stuff which distributed large quantities of WotC's IP (the text of the all the 5E spells, for example). Most of it is back up with permission now, or with some stuff removed, or with certain branding removed.

EN5ider doesn't use any of WotC IP outside of terminology previously licensed by the OGL, so there's nothing to C&D there. Frog God, of course, and Goodman Games, know exactly what they're doing and are not infringing either.
 

S_Dalsgaard

First Post
He's referring to some fan created stuff which distributed large quantities of WotC's IP (the text of the all the 5E spells, for example). Most of it is back up with permission now, or with some stuff removed, or with certain branding removed.

EN5ider doesn't use any of WotC IP outside of terminology previously licensed by the OGL, so there's nothing to C&D there. Frog God, of course, and Goodman Games, know exactly what they're doing and are not infringing either.

I thought that might be what he was referring to, but as those particular cases were in a completely different ballpark of infringement, I thought he might have something else in mind.
 

It is amazing this discussion comes up every time. The OGL has been used to make pure retro clones, neo clones, quasi clones and heart breakers not clones of every version of DnD. Fifth edition is no different.
 




Sorry, I guess I don't understand what the difference is... sorry

You can't use trade dress or direct copying of the work. So you can't use copy and paste of the spells. 3PP are even not using the same layout for monster stat blocks, so it is not a copy. But you can re-write the spells so it does exactly the same thing but doesn't use same words but is mechanically the same. Also you can use all the terms supplied in the OGL like Armour Class and Saving Throw, which covers a lot of what D&D (any edition) is.
 


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