Upper Krust, where are you? [Immortal's Handbook]

[Upper_Krust]

Hi upper krust !

Hi Necropolis mate!

can you give me the list of monsters from your upcoming book ?

I could but I want to keep some surprises in there!

Also I am only certain on about 80% of the (50) monsters at this point, and if the ELH enters the SRD I will make 5 of the monsters Abominations.

However I have revealed a few in the past so nothing given away by reiterating those I guess:

Cogent...Overmind (Web Enhancement)
Cosmocrat...High-Handed One
Golem, Mercury
Infinitaur
Eidolon...Astral Shadow (Template)
Nosferatu...Blood Monster (Template)
Pseudo-Brain (Template, Web Enhancement)

of course theres also the Celestials.

with the CRS ?

I will tell you that the HD range (in the monster chapter) is between 13 and 333.

The power range is between quasi-deity and overgod. I have a handful of monsters that could take on an entire Pantheon.

and what about the release date for the book something as changed about it ?

Not yet. I'll let you all know when I have something concrete.

thanks

My pleasure.

 

[Upper_Krust]

U_K:

Hello Serge mate!

Incidently give me a day or two to reply to your email. Thanks.

Some questions (and sorry if you've already addressed these).

Hey! Ask anyway!

Where do you place the upper Angelic Choirs?

They cover the full spectrum of divinity.

Are Arch-angels already gods to you, are they Advanced Solars, are they Advanced Solars with a DvR, or are they something altogether different?

Well the term 'Arch-Angel' actually occurs twice in the Angelic Hierarchy.

Firstly you have Planetars who are termed 'Arch-Angels'.

ie. (Third Choir)
Devas = Angels
Planetars = Arch-Angels
Solars = Principalities

Additionally you have the Second and First Choirs.

Beyond them are the true 'Arch-Angels' who are the Overgods of the Upper Planes.

Second, if Posiedon and Hades should be Intermediate gods to you, what should Athena and Hera be?

Intermediate Gods as well.

I advocate all deities (In D&Dg) except Pantheon Heads (and Demigods) be reduced by 3 Divine Ranks (with a few exceptions).

Thanks!

No problem mate!

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello mate!

Huh? You lost me now. ECL and CR are the same here, so a Level 1 character with Divine Rank 0 at ECL +10 would be ECL 11, and thus CR 11. A CR 11 creature is a challenge for four Level 11 characters, not four Level 7 characters.

Yes its a challenge but its going to have virtually no chance of success. A CR equal to the party average represents an almost certain win for the party using approximately 25% of their resources - such is not worth testing.

Using a CR equal to the party (x4 11th-level characters = CR15) gives a 50/50 chance of success. That can be tested.

I was under the assumption that I would be making "PCs" and you would be making an "NPC", as if you were the DM and I were the player.

Thats right. I get 15th-level NPC gear and you get 11th-level PC gear.

Basically, if I make four Level 11 characters, and you make a Level 1 Divine Rank 0 character at ECL +14, that's ECL 15 or CR 15. CR is based on four PCs of the same level, remember?

I explained this above. You can't test a party average CR you test a 50/50 fight.

How about in an open arena that is 100 feet in diameter. We'll start on either side, both sides aware of the other, 80 feet away from each other.

Seems a bit confined. What about double those dimensions?

By the way I am going to be busy over the next 24 hours or so - I suggest we start this on Sunday. Okay?

 

[Knight Otu]

Hi, Upper_Krust!

Cosmocrat...High-Handed One

What is their approximate power level and alignment?

 

[S'mon]

Hello mate!



Yes its a challenge but its going to have virtually no chance of success. A CR equal to the party average represents an almost certain win for the party using approximately 25% of their resources - such is not worth testing.

Using a CR equal to the party (x4 11th-level characters = CR15) gives a 50/50 chance of success. That can be tested.



Thats right. I get 15th-level NPC gear and you get 11th-level PC gear.



I explained this above. You can't test a party average CR you test a 50/50 fight.



Seems a bit confined. What about double those dimensions?

By the way I am going to be busy over the next 24 hours or so - I suggest we start this on Sunday. Okay?

I run my D&D game on Sunday so prob no adjudication until Monday!

-Simon

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi, Upper_Krust!

Hi Knight Otu mate!

What is their approximate power level and alignment?

Cosmocrat: Lawful Neutral; approximately Elder-god-like in power.

 

[Knight Otu]

Perfect!

 

[Cheiromancer]

I like your idea of reducing the number of greater gods. But if most greater gods are reduced 3 ranks, perhaps intermediate gods should be reduced only 2 ranks, and lesser gods one rank? This way lesser gods don't become less powerful than demi-gods.

How do you choose which salient abilities are the first to disappear? If I were industrious I would do some kind of statistical analysis to see what salient abilities appear for what level of deity, but I was wondering if anyone had already answered this question.

 

[Anubis]

Anubis vs. Upper_Krust

Hey yo, UK, ready for your deity's rear to get kicked in?

Go here:

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23465

I have started the thread and posted my characters.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Cheiromancer mate!

I like your idea of reducing the number of greater gods. But if most greater gods are reduced 3 ranks, perhaps intermediate gods should be reduced only 2 ranks, and lesser gods one rank? This way lesser gods don't become less powerful than demi-gods.

I should have added not to reduce a god in status (except for the Greater God to Intermediate God transition).

How do you choose which salient abilities are the first to disappear? If I were industrious I would do some kind of statistical analysis to see what salient abilities appear for what level of deity, but I was wondering if anyone had already answered this question.

Naturally if a deity is reduced from Greater God status you will need to remove any Salient Abilities that require DR16.

But generally I would just review this on a case by case basis. Its hardly as if you will need to use every deities stats every session.