Upper Krust, where are you? [Immortal's Handbook]

[Anubis]

Hello mate!



The problem is that the abilities of some monsters (eg. Troll regeneration) are more useful to PCs than NPCs.

I think this is the related article:

http://www.montecook.com/arch_dmonly11.html

This, actually, does not change the fact that UK's rules for determining ECL in regards to CR would also provide good ECLs for PCs.

Download Asgard 6 and look at it. With minimal tweaking it'd be perfect.

Yeah, CR doesn't work for SOME things. For others, however, it works pretty darn well.

 

[kreynolds]

This, actually, does not change the fact that UK's rules for determining ECL in regards to CR would also provide good ECLs for PCs.

Anubis, I find it very strange, that when replying to U.K., you refer to him in the third person, as U.K. This kind of respect and admiration is rather distrubing, as it somewhat reminds me of the creepy as hell behavior that can be found in psycho-obsessive identity stealing stalkers. Are you feeling ok? You haven't been sifting through his trash or anything, have you?

 

[Knight Otu]

Re: Initial Impressions of the Epic Level Handbook

Hi all!

Okay I have had the book for a couple of hours now, so time for initial observations.

- Epic Class Extensions: straightforward
- Epic Prestige Classes: nothing particularly grabbing - but maybe I need to read over them a few times.
- Epic Skill Uses: straightforward
- Epic Feats: some interesting choices, though I am not sure about Improved Metamagic and Multispell.
- Epic Spells: I think the mechanics are great. The example spells are interesting.
- Epic Campaign Advice: I need to read this closer - 100 Epic Adventure ideas were good though.
- Epic Magic Items: Covers all the bases. More evolution than revolution. Thought the artifacts could have been much better.
- Epic Monsters: Overall good - though there were a few that were a bit flat but everyone has their favourites I imagine.

Glad that you finally were able to get the book, Upper_Krust!

Be careful with the Epic Spells. They are fun to create, fun to read, ... and riddled with errors! One in particular is the question when the Permanency is applied. For me, it seems obvious that it is applied as the last factor before the mitigating factors, but the sample spells often do it differently.

Some seeds that may be useful or neccessary are missing (Magic Equipment, for example. I posted a possible version twice here on the boards, in the IC forum and the Rules forum).

There is no real way to create instantaneous spells, other that "ad hoc"ing it and hoping that the DM allows it.

But yes, it is a fun chapter, and I'm hoping to unleash my Rain of Jade upon the hordes of shdaowlands oni in the Rokugan IR.

I like most of the monsters presented (I was quite shocked when I read the Xixecal - I have a very similar god planned for my homebrew (and I had already statted him, just for fun)! ).

The abominations are quite interesting, and I would have wished to see a wolf-like abomination instead of the brachyurus.

I think some CRs may be in line with your CR method (before the recent adjustment).

The City of Union is nice, and despite the fears of other posters, has a different feel than Sigil. The sample epic adventure seems to be quite "hack and slay", and is possibly too hard for characters of the proposed level. It seemed more like "Introduce as many epic critters as possible in as few words as possible". I like the epic adventure from Dungeon Magazine better in that respect.

 

[Anubis]

DOH! I'm such a bubble-brain tonight . . .

Anubis, I find it very strange, that when replying to U.K., you refer to him in the third person, as U.K. This kind of respect and admiration is rather distrubing, as it somewhat reminds me of the creepy as hell behavior that can be found in psycho-obsessive identity stealing stalkers. Are you feeling ok? You haven't been sifting through his trash or anything, have you?

Whoops, that was unintentional . . . UK's posts are usually really long, so since the post was't long, since I don't usually look at the name of the poster when debating and brainstorming like this, I just replied like I would to anybody . . .

Whoops . . . Sorry about that . . .

Truth is, I do have complete repsect for UK, mainly because he';s like the only d20 developer who actually talks to us like normal people. Well, he's the only one I know of. Plus, the level of ability needed to create such high-end rules is staggering, and something I've waited years to see because TSR and WotC never got it right before, and they still don't.

The only person who could get more respect and admiration is someone who comes up with rules for rulership and war! I know about Fields of Blood the Book of War from Eden Odyssey, but it's been delayed so many times I'm starting to think it won't ever come out. It's the final piece of the puzzle . . .

 

[Anubis]

Anubis, I find it very strange, that when replying to U.K., you refer to him in the third person, as U.K. This kind of respect and admiration is rather distrubing, as it somewhat reminds me of the creepy as hell behavior that can be found in psycho-obsessive identity stealing stalkers. Are you feeling ok? You haven't been sifting through his trash or anything, have you?

ROTFLMAO

I'm okay, it was an honest mistake, ya?

I'm okay, really. I just got caught up in the discussion is all. It happens to the best of us.

I admit, though, that this is the first time I've ever replied to anyone besides my wife in the third-person, as opposed to referring to MYSELF in the third-person.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi mate!

This, actually, does not change the fact that UK's rules for determining ECL in regards to CR would also provide good ECLs for PCs.

Download Asgard 6 and look at it. With minimal tweaking it'd be perfect.

Yeah, CR doesn't work for SOME things. For others, however, it works pretty darn well.

I appreciate the love!

Though I can see Montes point that abilities like teleport without error at will, or regeneration are far more useful in the hands of the PCs than NPCs.

However it is difficult to ascertain if it would have a major effect on CR for the purposes of individual encounters.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Easy Tiger.

Hello mate!

Anubis, I find it very strange, that when replying to U.K., you refer to him in the third person, as U.K. This kind of respect and admiration is rather distrubing, as it somewhat reminds me of the creepy as hell behavior that can be found in psycho-obsessive identity stealing stalkers. Are you feeling ok? You haven't been sifting through his trash or anything, have you?

Perhaps I should change my pseudo-name to 'the artist formerly known as Upper_Krust'?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Re: DOH! I'm such a bubble-brain tonight . . .

Hello mate!

Truth is, I do have complete repsect for UK, mainly because he's like the only d20 developer who actually talks to us like normal people. Well, he's the only one I know of.

Thats probably because I am not technically a d20 developer just yet.

Once I hit the big time it will all be hard drugs and fast women!

Plus, the level of ability needed to create such high-end rules is staggering, and something I've waited years to see because TSR and WotC never got it right before, and they still don't.

I have been waiting years for such a book myself, so long in fact I thought I would write it myself.

 

[Upper_Krust]

ROTFLMAO

I'm okay, it was an honest mistake, ya?

I'm okay, really. I just got caught up in the discussion is all. It happens to the best of us.

I admit, though, that this is the first time I've ever replied to anyone besides my wife in the third-person, as opposed to referring to MYSELF in the third-person.

Hey! No big deal. Sometimes I even refer to myself in the third person.

If my friends catch it they refer to it as a 'Krustality'.

If ya smell-l-l-l-l...what the Krust...is...cookin!?

 

[Blacksad]

A thought just occured to me (something that happens once every century), and I have a question for you U_K:

Will the immortal handbook requires Deities&Demigods, or will it reprints the meaty content of D&De?