Using Detect Evil AKA Another Paladin Thread!


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yeah, the detect evil ability will take 3 rounds per person b/c it doesn't do individuals it does areas.

in that time the person (victim) should get a very uncomfortable feeling they are being watched. in this edition there are no facing rules. so they should know even if their back is turned that it is the paladin concentrating on them.

or you could do like scry and give them a will save.

all they have to do is move. once they move the paladin has to redirect the concentration and the 3 rounds starts over again.

detect evil is not know alignment. so if they are not evil it shouldn't tell the paladin anything besides the fact they don't register on his radar.
 

jgbrowning said:
One can be evil without doing evil. How does one do that?

joe b.

He's not saying that the people in question don't do evil, just that they can't be legally prosecuted simply because of their alignment--although this does assume that the government in question has some form of due process requiring evidence, etc., to prosecute someone. Some governments will take a knight or noble at his word, especially when it comes to someone of a lower social class. The opposite is most certainly not true.

I can easily see a theocracy run by the temple of a LG god having paladin law-enforcers routinely arresting people who radiate above a certain level of evil. Much like in the movie Minority Report, however, such a system would be easy to abuse, and it could easily slip into the realm of LE tyranny.

In terms of a paladin's code and who he/she can associate with, however, the Detect Evil ability comes in quite handy.
 

After having this conversation with other DMs, we have turned Detect Evil into Detect Evil Intent. The fact is, occassionally even good people do bad things, and evil people can do good. In reality, you don't want a paladin chasing after an evil necromancer who is just going to visit his dying mother, when that normally good tavern owner across the street has decided to kill the young man who knocked up his daughter.

This, of course, creates some interesting situations in and of itself. Like the time the paladin ended up protecting an evil mercenary from an angry mob that believed he killed a cleric. He was completely innocent...of that crime. And had actually been behaving himself in that town pretty much.
 

Olaf the Stout said:
While detecting that someone is evil is very different to actually proving that they have done something wrong I can still see that it may cause problems in the future.

It's not a license to kill or any kind of Sherlock Holmes ability to solve murder mysteries. It's a tool to help fight evil, and may aid in finding the killer or find the spy or whatever. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nothing to worry about, IMO. A lot of people are evil without any connection to the plot at hand or having committed truly heinous acts.
 

jgbrowning said:
One can be evil without doing evil. How does one do that?

joe b.

Well the quote was detecting as evil.

Be born to a fiend or be a fiend, inhrerently evil. Someone else casts protection from good on you. Be a good ghost or other undead. Be a neutral cleric of an evil god.
 

Wouldn't spellcraft be the correct way for determining someone is using a spell-like ability? There may even be cumulative penalties for no somatic & verbal componants?
 

FreeTheSlaves said:
Wouldn't spellcraft be the correct way for determining someone is using a spell-like ability? There may even be cumulative penalties for no somatic & verbal componants?
spellcraft will tell exactly what they are doing (the spell being used).

you don't need spellcraft to know that paladins can detect evil and that they are staring hard at you for 18 seconds.
 

Aeric said:
He's not saying that the people in question don't do evil, just that they can't be legally prosecuted simply because of their alignment--although this does assume that the government in question has some form of due process requiring evidence, etc., to prosecute someone.

Detect evil would be considered evidence. It would be easy to have a few clerics and paladins on the payroll to be able to confirm it.
 

Crothian said:
Detect evil would be considered evidence. It would be easy to have a few clerics and paladins on the payroll to be able to confirm it.

But the point is evidence of what exactly. Detecting as evil is not generally a crime. Doing evil generally is.
 

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