v3.5 Core Books on sale!
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jgsugden
Legend
Plane Sailing:
People think of CRs as a point on the scale of difficulty. They actually cover a range. A Miles Davis Archon might be a little stronger than a 14th level cleric, but the extra abilities are not enough to push it to CR15 in the eyes of the designers.
Remember, also, that an NPC cleric of 14th level is assumed to have 45,000 GP worth of gear and may have treasure beyond that amount (see pg 171 of the 3.0 DMG) while the Trumpet Archon's +4 greatsword turns to useless lead when not in his hands and he has limited treasure to use. The DC of the cleric's spells are likely to be much higher than the Trumpet Archon's DCs(how many 14th level clerics do you see walking around with a 16 wisdom?) In fact, I just noticed that a 3.0 Trumpet Archon can't even cast 7th level spells with his 16 wisdom ...
I'd give the edge to the Trumpet Archon, but not by too much. I think they end up pretty balanced with the pure NPC cleric.
People think of CRs as a point on the scale of difficulty. They actually cover a range. A Miles Davis Archon might be a little stronger than a 14th level cleric, but the extra abilities are not enough to push it to CR15 in the eyes of the designers.
Remember, also, that an NPC cleric of 14th level is assumed to have 45,000 GP worth of gear and may have treasure beyond that amount (see pg 171 of the 3.0 DMG) while the Trumpet Archon's +4 greatsword turns to useless lead when not in his hands and he has limited treasure to use. The DC of the cleric's spells are likely to be much higher than the Trumpet Archon's DCs(how many 14th level clerics do you see walking around with a 16 wisdom?) In fact, I just noticed that a 3.0 Trumpet Archon can't even cast 7th level spells with his 16 wisdom ...
I'd give the edge to the Trumpet Archon, but not by too much. I think they end up pretty balanced with the pure NPC cleric.
Bill Muench
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Could someone post the details of the holy sword spell? Supposedly it was being revised to more closely resemble the powers of a holy avenger. Thanks!
Upper_Krust
Legend
Hi Brekki mate! 
...you would almost think the Challenge Rating Rules were broken wouldn't you!
Brekki said:
...you would almost think the Challenge Rating Rules were broken wouldn't you!
GamerMan12
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UK now has 3.5 on sale
Hi,
The UK now has the 3.5 books on sale at all good game stores (although I only know about the main ones). I just bought my copies at my FLGS and am just about to cancel my Amazon order.
The distributor here is saying that today (11th July) is the official international release date for 3.5
GamerMan12
Hi,
The UK now has the 3.5 books on sale at all good game stores (although I only know about the main ones). I just bought my copies at my FLGS and am just about to cancel my Amazon order.
The distributor here is saying that today (11th July) is the official international release date for 3.5
GamerMan12
Fiendish Dire Weasel
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Derren, they posted just half a page up saying the Dragon Disciple's HD is d12
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Brekki
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Brekki's 3.5 Answers #20
@ Steverooo
Yeah, yeah, got the hint
Camouflage (Ex): A ranger of 13th level or higher can use the Hide skill in any sort of natural terrain, even if the terrain doesn't grant cover or concealment.
Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): While in any sort of natural terrain, a ranger of 17th level or higher can use the Hide skill even while being observed.
Favorite Enemy gives bonusses to: Bluf, Listen, Sense Motive, Spot, Survival, damage rolls ... NOT to any knowledge skills.
@ Upper_Krust
- The Planetars and Solars stats are the same
- I've read nothing special about their natural attack in the description of the creatures, or the overall outsider description. I really don't know why their base slam damage is so high.
- The Planetar still has a +3 greatsword
@ heirodule
1. The mental statboost items all use the second level spells. Casterlevel is 8th.
2. Casterlevel for Pearls of Power is still 17th
3. grr ... always the 1% eh ... goggles of night are 12.000 gp
@ Bill Muench
Holy Sword, Evocation [Good], Pal4
components: VS; casting time: 1 sa; target: melee weapon touched; duration: 1 r/l
The weapon acts as a +5 holy weapon, and also emits a magic circle against evil, that can be reactivated as a free action on your turn. The spell is cancelled one round after the weapon leaves your hand. You cannot have more than 1 holy sword at a time. The spell renders the normal enhancement bonus and powers of the weapon inoperative for the duratoin of the spell. It is not cumulative with any other spell that might modify the weapon in any way. It does not work on artifacts.
@ Shade
The feat is not in there .. the Control Shape skill is in the 3.5 MM
@ Steverooo
Yeah, yeah, got the hint
Camouflage (Ex): A ranger of 13th level or higher can use the Hide skill in any sort of natural terrain, even if the terrain doesn't grant cover or concealment.
Hide in Plain Sight (Ex): While in any sort of natural terrain, a ranger of 17th level or higher can use the Hide skill even while being observed.
Favorite Enemy gives bonusses to: Bluf, Listen, Sense Motive, Spot, Survival, damage rolls ... NOT to any knowledge skills.
@ Upper_Krust
- The Planetars and Solars stats are the same
- I've read nothing special about their natural attack in the description of the creatures, or the overall outsider description. I really don't know why their base slam damage is so high.
- The Planetar still has a +3 greatsword
@ heirodule
1. The mental statboost items all use the second level spells. Casterlevel is 8th.
2. Casterlevel for Pearls of Power is still 17th
3. grr ... always the 1% eh
... goggles of night are 12.000 gp@ Bill Muench
Holy Sword, Evocation [Good], Pal4
components: VS; casting time: 1 sa; target: melee weapon touched; duration: 1 r/l
The weapon acts as a +5 holy weapon, and also emits a magic circle against evil, that can be reactivated as a free action on your turn. The spell is cancelled one round after the weapon leaves your hand. You cannot have more than 1 holy sword at a time. The spell renders the normal enhancement bonus and powers of the weapon inoperative for the duratoin of the spell. It is not cumulative with any other spell that might modify the weapon in any way. It does not work on artifacts.
@ Shade
The feat is not in there .. the Control Shape skill is in the 3.5 MM
