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Vader vs Soth: Fight! Who wins?

Who wins?

  • Vader

    Votes: 24 64.9%
  • Soth

    Votes: 13 35.1%

  • Total voters
    37

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Vader, of course.

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Blue Orange

Adventurer
Depends on the magic rating of the universe. At the high end, Soth toasts Vader with a fireball and finishes him off with a Power Word Kill. In the middle, magic fails and Vader has the advantage as the Force isn't strictly magical. Below that, the Force stops working too but Soth can't be reanimated so he just drops down dead.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Depends on the magic rating of the universe. At the high end, Soth toasts Vader with a fireball and finishes him off with a Power Word Kill. In the middle, magic fails and Vader has the advantage as the Force isn't strictly magical. Below that, the Force stops working too but Soth can't be reanimated so he just drops down dead.
I mean, assume their powers work. Otherwise it's all a bit pointless!
 


Blue Orange

Adventurer
Depends who gets initiative.

I could see Vader trying to Force-choke Soth and failing, which lets Soth get a fireball in (I'm going to assume Soth can size up Vader and assume he has too many HP for a PWK.) If Soth gets initiative, bang, fireball.

My sympathies are actually with Vader as the star of the larger franchise, but that's the way I see it.

If you really wanted there are d20 stats for each from the 3e era.
 

Galandris

Foggy Bottom Campaign Setting Fan
I mean, assume their powers work. Otherwise it's all a bit pointless!

Yes. If their power don't cross the universes, Vader fails as his breathing apparatus ceases to function, long before Soth has time to start waking to meet him.

Even then, in the films, there is no evidence Vader is still able to fight efficiently anyway, besting only a old man far from the height of his Jedi Master time, a Jedi half-apprentice and his master who conveniently didn't have a lightsaber at the moment. Vader pre-disembowelment, limb-cutting and lava-bath would have been a more worthy opponent to Soth.

I voted Vador, because I assume they are pitched against each other at their peak power.
 
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Stalker0

Legend
If you want stats for Vadar, there was the Star Wars Saga version, which is probably the most "dnd esque" vadar stats we would have:

 



Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Depends who gets initiative.

I could see Vader trying to Force-choke Soth and failing, which lets Soth get a fireball in (I'm going to assume Soth can size up Vader and assume he has too many HP for a PWK.) If Soth gets initiative, bang, fireball.

My sympathies are actually with Vader as the star of the larger franchise, but that's the way I see it.

If you really wanted there are d20 stats for each from the 3e era.
Vader senses the attack and force leaps out of range. Plus he can deflect energy as we see in Empire Strikes Back.
 




Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Interestingly, both characters are said to have 17 class levels using the 3E rules; Darth Vader in the Star Wars Core Rulebook: Revised Edition and Lord Soth in The War of the Lance sourcebook. But the latter also has a +5 CR template ("Death Knight of Krynn") from the 3.5 Dragonlance Campaign Setting, so in terms of comparable mechanics, Soth seems to have the edge.

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Blue Orange

Adventurer
Interestingly, both characters are said to have 17 class levels using the 3E rules; Darth Vader in the Star Wars Core Rulebook: Revised Edition and Lord Soth in The War of the Lance sourcebook. But the latter also has a +5 CR template ("Death Knight of Krynn") from the 3.5 Dragonlance Campaign Setting, so in terms of comparable mechanics, Soth seems to have the edge.

Please note my use of affiliate links in this post.

Realistically you'd have to go through each of those massive stat blocks and try to use all the abilities to their best, which would require a good knowledge of both games. I don't even want to think about it.

Morrus: would it be fair use for me to go to the links, buy the gamebooks, and post the stat blocks here?
 



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