Vow of Poverty and Cohorts

Dyntheos

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Are Cohorts taken using the Leadership feat required to also take a VoP?

Would a character that had undertaken the vow allow a cohort or follower to join him when the cohort himself is dripping with magical items and loot?
 

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Well, does that selfsame character with the VoP travel with a party that has characters who accumulate many items, moreso cuz the VoP guy doesn't take anything really.

Calrin Alshaw
 

Well, we don't give cohorts a share imc- the pc gives the cohort loot from his share. So in the case of a pc with VoP, the cohort doesn't have to take the vow but he's gonna suffer from his 'liege's' VoP...
 

Hey, the 'share' of the one with VoP is still there... so the cohort could have it all, if you see it from that direction...

Anyways, yes, it doesn't seem to be the point of VoP to load up your cohort (or your party members) with tons of items useable on others and have them use those on yourself.

It's more like that if you are in the need of healing and someone happens to have an item, that can heal, you are not forbidden to get healed, and something like that. When it happens, fine, but do not try to purposefully support/create that situation. That would (IMHO) break the vow.

Bye
Thanee
 
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If you pick up VoP - as a player - you do it for the bonuses, of course.
But as a character, you do not. You don't make a vow of poverty, because you want cool abilities.

You willingly sacrifice material wealth to gain purity and rid yourself of thoughts of greed. You do so in order to seek enlightenment, which - nicely enough - is granted to you in the form of various, powerful bonuses and special abilities.

The sacrifice comes first, the rest follows, not the other way around.

If a player does not roleplay a character like that, but rather with the mindset, that the vow of poverty is the cost to gain all those cool abilities, then he or she will lose their powers pretty fast IMC. Intentionally circumventing the vow is the same as breaking it IMHO.

Bye
Thanee
 

Thanee said:
If you pick up VoP - as a player - you do it for the bonuses, of course.
But as a character, you do not. You don't make a vow of poverty, because you want cool abilities.

You willingly sacrifice material wealth to gain purity and rid yourself of thoughts of greed. You do so in order to seek enlightenment, which - nicely enough - is granted to you in the form of various, powerful bonuses and special abilities.

The sacrifice comes first, the rest follows, not the other way around.

If a player does not roleplay a character like that, but rather with the mindset, that the vow of poverty is the cost to gain all those cool abilities, then he or she will lose their powers pretty fast IMC. Intentionally circumventing the vow is the same as breaking it IMHO.

Bye
Thanee
Well said, Thanee... well said.

Mike
 

*thread resurrection*
This just came up in my game. I can see someone following the character, but am not sure if the PC can equip the cohort before donating the rest. I'd say not, in which case the cohort will soon die due to being woefully underequipped. Hmmmm.

Any more thoughts/ tips?
 

Read the section on "Other Ramifications of Pverty" on pg 30.

Specifically the following:

"Having a character in the party who has taken a vow of poverty should not necessarily mean that the other party memebers get bigger shares of treasure!. . . . ."

So it is pretty clear what the intent of this restriction is.
 

So if VoP assumes that a PC will get his/her equal portion of the treasure, would it not be possible to simply split that portion equally between the PC and cohort(s)? The PC would then have his "share" to donate to charity and the cohort(s) would have enough dough to buy decent equipment.

In a 4 character party, the VoP PC gets 1/4 of the treasure. After splitting this with his/her cohort, s/he gives 1/8 of the treasure to charity. This will still be a very handsome amount and should definitely be seen as keeping the vow, especially since the PC has not used any of the treasure on personal equipment.
 

The notion that the "PCs split the loot" actually might be the source of the problem. In general, I prefer to have each character (PC or NPC) have a (variable) share. So the money wouldn't even go through the PCs hands...
 

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