Vow of Poverty and Spellbooks

[gfunk]

It's a great feat for monks, and not super good for anyone else.

I think it works very well for a Sorcerer as well, less so for a Cleric or Druid.

 

[AuraSeer]

A sorcerer is more dependent on magic items than you might think. The smart ones carry a large assortment of scrolls and wands to make up for their limited list of known spells. Also, that Cloak of Charisma is very important for increasing spell DCs, since the sorcerer has relatively few feats to spend there.

 

[DM_Matt]

A sorcerer is more dependent on magic items than you might think. The smart ones carry a large assortment of scrolls and wands to make up for their limited list of known spells. Also, that Cloak of Charisma is very important for increasing spell DCs, since the sorcerer has relatively few feats to spend there.

An exalted Sorc would make up for the loss of scroll access by taking all five levels of Exalted Arcanist, which at fifth level effectively adds all Sanctified Spells to his spells known list. There are 30 in the BoED, and the wording of the ability makes it so that any spell created later and declared sanctified is free too. That and the Vow gives several persistant spells anyway, like endure eleemnts, true seeing, a slightly altered mind blank, greater sustainence, freedom of movement, etc.

Regarding the cloak of Cha, he gets enhanceemnt bonuses to his stats....IN fact, he eventually gets a +8 to his main one at non-eic levels. Speaking of DCs, his bouns exalted feats can buy him things like Nymphs Kiss (+2 to anytinhg Cha-based) and Spell Focus (Good) (+2dc on good spells).

Regarding the lack of feats, it is true that he only has a few regualr ones t get spell focus etc., but 10 free exalted ones sure make up for it, esp since they have similar ones like thos ementioned above that stack.

 

[AuraSeer]

Wow, I didn't realize the feat was quite that powerful.

Methinks I need to get a copy of this book.

 

[Thanee]

The vow prevents you from storing things of great value (except the spell component pouch - which can include any and all spell components, even the costly ones because it is a speciifc exception). The Spellbook does not have a named value - it's just very expensive filling it.

Actually there are costs given for spellbooks somewhere. I think it was one-half the cost of scribing all spells.

So, IMHO, a spellbook is not allowed, as it represents a quite high value.

From what I read here (don't have the book), I also think, that costly material components would not be allowed, only the ones that come with the spell component pouch.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Olive]

A sorcerer is more dependent on magic items than you might think. The smart ones carry a large assortment of scrolls and wands to make up for their limited list of known spells. Also, that Cloak of Charisma is very important for increasing spell DCs, since the sorcerer has relatively few feats to spend there.

As DM-Matt has pointed out, the feat is designed so that voluntarilly poor characters can overcome those losses...

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

So, IMHO, a spellbook is not allowed, as it represents a quite high value.

Glad to hear that. So when I capture a spellbook, how much can I sell it for?

 

[Tellerve]

Is it blank? If so then ~15gp (page 128 3.5phb), otherwise it would depend on how many of what spells are in it. And also if it happened to be masterwork or jeweled. etc. etc. *shrugs*

Tellerve

 

[Daag]

Personally, I think Vow of Poverty works best for a druid. All that AC bonus while you're wildshapped? All those stat boosts? All those Ex abilities you gain could be debatable on whether you keep them while wildshaped, but since they're level based gains, they should be fine. So if you put the +8 into Str, +6 into Dex, you can have a Dire Bear who is pretty hard to hit. THen you animal growth yourself, and you're at +16 Str on your dire bear form. It'd say that's pretty decent.

Druids can also fly rather easily, and a whole bunch of other things. Imagine casting entangle, then wading in without fear of getting yourself trapped. And eventually having Elemental forms. Then there's how Barkskin works now.

A Monk/Cleric with the Plant domain has possibilities as well.

I'm about to start a Monk, that will more than likely go into cleric. I think it will work well, since I can cast spells like Spell Resistance, and others on myself. Any energy resistance, and the ability to heal myself easily.

Daag

 

[jodyjohnson]

An exalted Sorc would make up for the loss of scroll access by taking all five levels of Exalted Arcanist, which at fifth level effectively adds all Sanctified Spells to his spells known list.

My recollection was that the spells were added to his possibly known list and he needed to select them as spells known or replace previous known spells with them. I don't believe it increases the spells available for casting, just increases the range of selection for known.