D&D 5E Wanting more content doesn't always equate to wanting tons of splat options so please stop.

[ccs]

That's a False Equivalence Making friends =/= reviews. It's far easier to read people when you interact with them, than it is to try and figure out which positive reviews are lies.

Well I have to start somewhere when looking into a new product.... Might as well start with the easiest option, scroll down & read the reviews.

 

[Maxperson]

They don't actually have to be equivalent for my point to be clear; choosing to abandon review reading entirely was not your only option, and is an option with a very clear downside since it helps prevent you from finding game materials that are to your liking.

You equated making friends, which you can see and assess for truthfulness, to online ratings which you can't. There's no way to tell a truthful positive review from a untruthful one.

 

[Maxperson]

Well I have to start somewhere when looking into a new product.... Might as well start with the easiest option, scroll down & read the reviews.

Since not one of those reviews can be trusted, what's the point?

 

[AaronOfBarbaria]

There's no way to tell a truthful positive review from a untruthful one.

And yet, somehow, against all odds, people have successfully used reviews to find products that they like.

So maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the deceivers in the world - but that you are overestimating their commonality.

 

[Maxperson]

And yet, somehow, against all odds, people have successfully used reviews to find products that they like.

So maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the deceivers in the world - but that you are overestimating their commonality.

Or some people are easy to please, or some people get lucky, or...

 

[Shasarak]

So, ironically, the ending of the novels could actually be an indication of the strength and success of D&D right now.

Exactly! Things are looking pretty bad when they can not even keep the novel line running with three experienced novelists.

But as long as they keep tweeting their twits then that is success.

 

[Shasarak]

And yet, somehow, against all odds, people have successfully used reviews to find products that they like.

Recently I have increasingly found movie reviews to be a waste of time, with the bad ones rating high and the good ones rating low.

 

[DEFCON 1]

I am very amused by the fact Corpsetaker asked us to just please stop in the very first post... and the thread has instead ballooned out to 28 pages thus far.

 

[hawkeyefan]

In general I agree with you, but it seems like WotC is pretty resolved to not go back to splat-fest - not by a long shot, so I don't see any legitimate reason to actually worry about this. I do like the options that have been released. I thought SCAG could have done without some of the fluff, but the content that was in there was good. One thing they haven't done yet is release a new class, which after more than 2 years is starting to stretch the definition of "slow".
As far as the title of this thread goes, I don't think it's a matter of where the lines are drawn - obviously everyone will have their own opinion on that. It's when some people who don't want any new content at all want to shut down any such conversations (extreme or not), and crying "splat" every time is a convenient way to accomplish this. Not that there isn't a time and place recall the pitfalls of previous editions, but when it becomes a "thought-police's baton"... not ok.

We've seen the mystic class in playtest. So clearly they intend to add at least one class. My opinion is that the majority of classes from past editions are better served as subclasses of an existing class rather than a class of their own. There are only a couple that I think need to be a class, and the mystic/psion is one of those.

I personally am not worried about it happening. And my part in this conversation is not in any way to shut down discussion. I don't mind engaging in a rational discussion of the matter.

However, the topic is continually raised by the OP and any counter argument is dismissed or never acknowledged. So that tends to frustrate folks. However, some decent discussion sometimes comes from these threads, so there is that.

What's more, if there are a lot of people out there who want more general content, and there most likely are, the longer WotC waits the worse it will be. It will take more to placate them and get them to buy or come back to D&D, so the odds that WotC will have to engage in the quick, frequent splat books goes up.

I don't follow this logic at all.

 

[AaronOfBarbaria]

Recently I have increasingly found movie reviews to be a waste of time, with the bad ones rating high and the good ones rating low.

To me, that sounds not as though the reviews are an actual waste of your time, you just haven't appropriately adjusted your view - you are expecting a highly-rated review from a reviewer with obviously different, nearly to the point of being opposite, tastes to your own to be good in your opinion, when you should be recognizing that if a reviewer that likes what you can't stand says "This is great!" it is identical to you to a reviewer that likes exactly what you like saying "This is awful."

Which is not really hard to do - just look at the reviews available from a particular source (local newspaper, rotten tomatoes, a youtuber, etc.) and see how that source reviewed a movie you've already seen, and assume that their general opinion will be as similar to your own as their review of that film is to your own thoughts (example: I look and see if a review source has given a rating for Army of Darkness, and if they say it sucked, I know to treat their review as an opposite - they give a high rating, I skip the film. They tank something, or even better refuse to even bother reviewing because they already know they'll hate it, I'll make sure I catch the film in theaters rather than waiting for a rental service or Netflix to have it).