Hello, am I reading correctly, is there two TTRPG based on Warhammer Fantasy ? Or the Age of Sigmar one is just for minis? If there's two settings, which one is closer to Total War Warhammers ? Thanks!
There really are two completely different games and settings with some cross overs in names and a couple of characters but really not much at all.Hello, am I reading correctly, is there two TTRPG based on Warhammer Fantasy ? Or the Age of Sigmar one is just for minis? If there's two settings, which one is closer to Total War Warhammers ? Thanks!
I much prefer the Old World as well and was a little upset when they cancelled it. But I had to cut GW some slack given that I wasn't playing WH Fantasy at the time and I was unlikely to pick it up any time soon. GW has lot more freedom to work in AoS and they're putting out more interesting miniatures than they are for 40k in my opinion. Though I still miss the Old World.[Edit: Okay I can’t help it… Long live the Old World!]
I think there were a few reasons. They wanted to protect IP by having a property that was cut off from its inspirational roots. You can’t sue someone for using the name ‘The Empire’ or ‘Dwarf’.Well, then I prefer the former. I guess Zweihander is also based on the former.
The way you described it, it's like AoS is the Fantasy version of WH40K.
I'm trying to find lore on Total War Warhammer and stumble unto this, I was a bit surprised to see two core rulebooks from the same universe but totally different. From what I gather, they wanted to redo minis as well so it could explain the end times ?
He never mentioned such where I could see at the time he was doing dev on it.I think Zweihander is based of WFRP 1E and/or 2E' system but a completely different setting. I think the developer had intentions to get the WFRP license to publish but was not successful so published the system with a "numbers scraped off plus new terminology" setting. If you're looking for something Warhammer-y but not WFRP you couldn't go wrong looking at Zweihander.
I'm likely wrong with the timing. Now that you mention it the attempt could have been after FFG lost the license.He never mentioned such where I could see at the time he was doing dev on it.
It was a case of he didn't like 3rd, and did like parts of 1st and 2nd, so hybridized. (I might still have the playtest copy on a drive around her...)
He may have later tried to get the license for 4th... but IIRC, he announced after 3rd was already assigned and announced to be leaving the d100 behind....
My friends playing Zweihänder have all tried WFRP 4th, and want to return to Zweihänder.
Fantasy skewed towards an older audience many of whom were essentially done purchasing models. i.e. Even the hard core players who owned 2 or 3 armies weren't likely to pick up many more models in the future. I honestly don't know if just coming up with new models would have attracted a lot of new players to WH Fantasy. I don't think it would have attracted younger players and the older players likely wouldn't have bought new models both because they already had a ton of them and the newer ones wouldn't match their older ones in aesthetics. It was a ballsy calculated move on their part knowing they would alienate long term fans with the goal of attracting newer younger fans and it worked.They weren’t selling Fantasy as well as 40k, so instead of investing some time and effort into it they decided to nuke the setting and sell a lot of ‘grand finale’ models. This worked but kinda just showed if they’d put their efforts into the models in the first place they would have been more successful.
I've never been huge on lore when it comes to my war games and I tend to select my factions primarily on the ones I think look the coolest. After all, I will be spending far more time painting my models than I will using them for any game. That said, one of the Seraphon boxed sets was the very first thing I purchased for AoS. I recently purchased the Dominion boxed set and had a lot of fun painting my Stormcast models but I didn't particularly care for the Kruelboyz. The models look cool but I much prefer the goofy malevolence of old school orks.I tend to agree. As a fan of lizardmen, I found the shift from lizardmen lore to the seraphon lore in AoS to be a real head-scratcher.
I have already Zweihander and I quite like it. But I was looking for more TW:W lore so if WFRP 4e can help with that, I'll gladfully purchase it.The old world is awesome and while Total Warhammer is bringing it to a whole new generation and has expanded the world and the lore, Cubicle 7’s WFRP 4e is giving it a lot of detail. I’d give it a go. Zweihander is just a spin off of 2e, without the release schedule. It’s a bit locked in time. I’d give the new edition a look first.
They have done a sourcebook on Altdorf and one on Middenheim, both are really good.I have already Zweihander and I quite like it. But I was looking for more TW:W lore so if WFRP 4e can help with that, I'll gladfully purchase it.
I've also saw a Ubersreik adventures book, like 6 or 7 adventures in one hardcover. But all of those seems to be limited to the Empire and on my side, I'm searching stuff on the High Elves as I want to do Mortal Empires with them.They have done a sourcebook on Altdorf and one on Middenheim, both are really good.
They have also a lot of detail on Ubersreik in the starter set.
Archives of the Empire also looks at Dwarves, Elves and halflings.
All 3 are very good sourcebooks.
You won’t find High Elf stuff in WFRP of any edition. The RPG sticks with the empire and its neighboring kingdoms. Army books and novels are your best bet for elfy stuff.I've also saw a Ubersreik adventures book, like 6 or 7 adventures in one hardcover. But all of those seems to be limited to the Empire and on my side, I'm searching stuff on the High Elves as I want to do Mortal Empires with them.
Sorry, English isn't my native language, sometimes I had difficulties to write correctly my ideas.If I understand your question - there will be lore for Age of Sigmar, WFRP 4e, and WFB - they are all set at different times and slightly different as I understand it. However, WFB should be much, much closer to 4e lore.