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Warning Labels

Do role-playing games need warning labels?

Other industries have warning labels. Movies have a rating system; music and computer games have labels, so why not role-playing games?

I am thinking of starting a parents group. The purpose of this group will be to lobby to have warning labels put on role-playing games. The role-playing gaming industry has far too long cried “we are grown ups, we can have what we want in our games”. True, but these things can and are harmful to others. Does the role-playing community really believe that ‘The Book of Erotic Fantasy’ will not have a harmful effect on someone, somewhere?

Of course adult material has been in role-playing games since the beginning. The succubus, virgins and other impure practices have been implied throughout the game history (note: I said implied). However, this type of material is not right and should not be produced.

Where does the line be drawn? At what point do you say enough is enough? When the publishers of the most popular role-playing game in history put out morally deficit material such as ‘Book of Vile Darkness’ and that disappointment called Dragon Magazine 300 I say enough is enough (To be fair it was Paizo, but the same). People have asked me why I’m so vehement against these things; the reason is I hold gaming companies to a higher standard (but other forms of entertainment have been corrupted by individuals such as television, movies and the internet, why not gaming?). I felt happy with my hobby in the so-called sterile ‘90’s of the games saga. Now I am filled with just so much disappointment.

With the firing of all the old timers at Wizards all that’s left is the young designers (who may be talented) who grew up in an age where they are desensitized to sex, violence and other repugnancies of society. It’s true that the majority of gamers are older and feel this type of stuff needs published, I guess. I’m older and have been involved with the game for over 15 years but I won’t carry these types of books in my gaming collection.

Does some kind of a grading system seem warranted? I think so.

Son of Thunder

P.S. If there’s one good thing about stuff like this, it’s that I know whose work to avoid in the future no matter how good people say it is. There are game designers to this day that I won’t purchase their product because their name has been associated with a mature product.

P.S.S. A good man once said, “What’s too mature for children is too mature for adults.”
 

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I think some do. I think the Book of Vile Darkness does, and most Mystic Eye Games stuff has warning thingie about supernatural themes or something silly (their products are pretty tame).


While I wouldn't really want a label, I'd like to see d20 products have something of a info label, like video games do.
 


Oh, man. You say some really funny things, and some real bogglers, too.

Son_of_Thunder said:
Do role-playing games need warning labels?

First, you seem to be implying that the book of erotic fantasy will not have a warning label. Of course it will. Of course it will be marked "Not to be sold to minors". To do otherwise might even be illegal. Or were you referring that the core books need labels, too?

Does the role-playing community really believe that ‘The Book of Erotic Fantasy’ will not have a harmful effect on someone, somewhere?

Yes, we do.

Where does the line be drawn? At what point do you say enough is enough? When the publishers of the most popular role-playing game in history put out morally deficit material such as ‘Book of Vile Darkness’ and that disappointment called Dragon Magazine 300 I say enough is enough...

I do actually agree that gaming magazines should be safe for all ages. See, I can be agreeable!

With the firing of all the old timers at Wizards all that’s left is the young designers (who may be talented) who grew up in an age where they are desensitized to sex, violence and other repugnancies of society.

Now, this is the funny one! If you have read anything at all about the early days of Wizards, you would know just how funny that quote really is. The early days at Wizards was all about young goth/punk gamers being free and wild and inter-company sex and parting. THOSE are the people who are gone or undergone change.

P.S.S. A good man once said, “What’s too mature for children is too mature for adults.”

He might have been good, but his logic was odd. What kind of world would we live in if everything had to be acceptable for five year olds. A world without any people, I guess, because there wouldn't be any such thing as sex. After all, sex is too mature for children, right?
 

Son_of_Thunder said:
Does the role-playing community really believe that ‘The Book of Erotic Fantasy’ will not have a harmful effect on someone, somewhere?

Don't know about the community, but I do.


Of course adult material has been in role-playing games since the beginning. The succubus, virgins and other impure practices have been implied throughout the game history (note: I said implied). However, this type of material is not right and should not be produced.

Impure and not right, huh? That's a pretty broad assertion :)


P.S.S. A good man once said, “What’s too mature for children is too mature for adults.”

And I say that what's mature enough for adults is mature enough for children.

And by the way, it's P.P.S. (post-postscript, not postscript-script). Grammar mistakes are impure and not right. Trust me :D
 

Well, warning labels are a step or so away from censorship. So, I can't be for them being forced upon the companies. However, I like that most companies are policing themselves and placing warning labels on things they feel needs it.
 

You know, perhaps this is not a troll - but after a handful of posts, it's already spiraling downhill. Son of Thunder, you'll have much better luck if you phrase controversial statements as your opinion (ie "However, I think this type of material is not right and should not be produced.")

In any event, this is destined for a fiery death, so I'm going to put it out of its misery early. If you wish to discuss it, feel free to email me.
 

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