Waterdeep?

[Henry]

Without doubt, Volo's Guide to Waterdeep is indeed the best waterdeep guide ever produced. The 1st edition FR1 Waterdeep and the North was good, but only skimmed the topics that Volo's covered in detail. Want a mysterious inn? Need a noble to scheme up some devious plot, Need a curio shop that sells real curiosities? It's like Prego - It's in there.

 

[diaglo]

there was so much stuff for Waterdeep in 1ed and 2ed you lost track.

try http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads for a start.

the marco volo adventures.

there is a Trail Map for Waterdeep and the North
and there is all the other stuff people have mentioned. Cities of series...

FR1, FR8, FR.... yadda yadda yadda...

i'm still amazed how much they (WotC) are just rehashing older material.

 

[MetalBard]

City of Splendor's is one of the best boxed sets I've ever used. Plenty of night-time roof top chases and back alley fun with that one...

(Back on topic) I see the "new" FR cosmology as a "best guess" by sages as to how all the planes are connected. Essentially basing it off of alternative planar pathways from the main Planescape ones. That way all my 2nd Realms/Planescape campaigns work with the 3rd edition ones I'm doing now. That covers how Oerth and Toril are connected. With all the Dragonlance stuff going on now (what with Takhisis dead and Paladine mortal) I see Krynn being connected to Oerth and Toril only through the Shadow Plane. Those Ansalonians are just more clueless than your average berk...

Oh yeah, final little jab... I liked Soth WAYYY better in Ravenloft than in Dragonlance. James Lowder just treated him right. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Davelozzi]

(Back on topic) I see the "new" FR cosmology ...

Wrong thread. That would have been back on topic here.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

(Back on topic) I see the "new" FR cosmology...

How is this on topic for discussion of Waterdeep, in terms of a novel and/or a source book?

That said, what does eveyone want to see in a source book?

In game, I think it will have been four or five years since the last book. So maybe an up date on city events and what the city is like "today." Hopefully some info on Undermountian and the suburbs.

 

[MetalBard]

Yikes, I must really have been out of it... I thought those two topics were part of the same thread... which seemed really weird to me and now I know why. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Faraer]

The only game sources that focus on Waterdeep, apart from City System which is mainly a map accessory, are FR1/City of Splendors (one a revised and expanded version of the other) and Volo's Guide to Waterdeep; they're complementary, one focusing on the overall picture of the city and its politics, the other on individual wards and buildings.

there is a Trail Map for Waterdeep and the North

Not a Waterdeep product, it's a big map of Faerûn with a small inset map of Waterdeep.

i'm still amazed how much they (WotC) are just rehashing older material.

Other than the Player's Guide to Faerûn which I've steered clear of, they're not at all. The two books that revise already-covered areas are full of new content, especially the exemplary Silver Marches, which isn't a rehash in any sense.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

Again....

What is your wish list for things a Waterdeep book should include?

 

[Mystery Man]

Again....

What is your wish list for things a Waterdeep book should include?

Newer fresher better street encounter table(s).

Fluff, fluff and more fluff.

....that includes general info, npc's and their dwellings, demographics (political and social class levels), and more fluff!

There will be one cool prc out of gods know how many and too many useless feats to count, but I guess we'll have to put up with the crap to get the good stuff.

 

[diaglo]

Other than the Player's Guide to Faerûn which I've steered clear of, they're not at all. The two books that revise already-covered areas are full of new content, especially the exemplary Silver Marches, which isn't a rehash in any sense.

so is it okay if i don't believe you. i happen to have a rather large collection of material with references either to or about waterdeep. just off the top of my head i can think of a couple not included on this thread.

don't forget the modules...FRE3 Waterdeep and the novel of the same name.

Undermountain and all of its add ons. some of which are free downloads on WotC.

the Marco Volo adventures as i mentioned before. the first one in particular... Departure or whatever it was called.