Waterdeep?

[Ron]

I'm hoping it becomes the definitive fantasy port city sourcebooks, from law & politics to trade & resources. Also, the structure of their militia and watchguards on land and seacoast.

I'm hoping they include information of the little-known Illefarn.

I'm sorry but I can't see WotC publishing a fine product as the one you proposed. Think about tons of crunch and revamped Realms information and then you probably will make a picture of the upcoming Waterdeep book.

If you're looking for a good fantasy city book, go after Lankhmar, published for 1st edition AD&D but still not beaten (although I've a soft spot for The City of Greyhawk Boxed Set).

 

[jester47]

I'm sorry but I can't see WotC publishing a fine product as the one you proposed. Think about tons of crunch and revamped Realms information and then you probably will make a picture of the upcoming Waterdeep book.

If you're looking for a good fantasy city book, go after Lankhmar, published for 1st edition AD&D but still not beaten (although I've a soft spot for The City of Greyhawk Boxed Set).

I disagree Ron. But my reasons are stated above. I would wager that Waterdeep will have a crunch factor of 10-20%. I think it has a chance of being a 223 page book. Or it might even get setting treatment with 320. If so, 15% is still a lot.

The FR City system is ok. City of Greyhawk is good. 1st ed. Lankhmar is really good. But City State of the Invincible Overlord is better (any editon). CSIO idealwise has a lot of ties to Lankhmar (in fact its almost a rip off). I would use both together.

A.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

Anyone know anything about the Waterdeep novel.

 

[Faraer]

It's a straightforward narrative (rather than a Cormyr-style back-and-forth) set in the 'present' Realms, with mostly new characters. I think that's pretty much what we know.

And now Ed's started on the first Knights of Myth Drannor novel, and after only 17 years...

 

[Ron]

I disagree Ron. But my reasons are stated above. I would wager that Waterdeep will have a crunch factor of 10-20%. I think it has a chance of being a 223 page book. Or it might even get setting treatment with 320. If so, 15% is still a lot.

I can only hope you're right!

The FR City system is ok. City of Greyhawk is good. 1st ed. Lankhmar is really good. But City State of the Invincible Overlord is better (any editon). CSIO idealwise has a lot of ties to Lankhmar (in fact its almost a rip off). I would use both together.

A.

Never seen the City State of the Invincible Overlord, but I heard it was going to be republished soon with d20 stats.

 

[jester47]

Never seen the City State of the Invincible Overlord, but I heard it was going to be republished soon with d20 stats.

Indeed.

Aaron.

 

[Ron]

Slightly out of topic. I'm no expert in the Realms, so what exactly has TSR/WotC has published regarding Waterdeep. I recall only an old AD&D (1st edition, I believe) supplement with a Beholder in the cover. I wasn't impressed. Is there anything better?

 

[Mystery Man]

Slightly out of topic. I'm no expert in the Realms, so what exactly has TSR/WotC has published regarding Waterdeep. I recall only an old AD&D (1st edition, I believe) supplement with a Beholder in the cover. I wasn't impressed. Is there anything better?

City of Splendors.

Undermountain(s).

and the Volo's Guide to Waterdeep.

 

[Davelozzi]

Actually the FR books are moving away from what we saw in Underdark and UE. Serpent Kingdoms only has 24 pages of the items you listed. Out of 191 pages thats only 12% crunch...It was said at GenCon that WotC is rethinking the cruchiness theory in favor of fluff theory.

I hope that's true. Serpent Kingdoms is the best FR book I've seen in quite a while.

 

[jester47]

Slightly out of topic. I'm no expert in the Realms, so what exactly has TSR/WotC has published regarding Waterdeep. I recall only an old AD&D (1st edition, I believe) supplement with a Beholder in the cover. I wasn't impressed. Is there anything better?

City System has the largest map of waterdeep ever published, along with some of the inner workings of the city.

Aaron.