Weapon Focus / Specialisation question

[Khelvan]

Got a question concerning some Feats.
If a Fighter has exotic Weapon prof. Mercurial Longword and
Weapon Focus Longsword
Improved Critical Longsword
Weapon Specialisation Longsword


would this feats apply to a mercurial Longsword?
Can someone tell me?
Thanks

Khelvan.

 

[frankthedm]

would this feats apply to a mercurial Longsword?

ONLY if the text of the mercurial longsword specifically says it does.

Also check complete adventurer. Some weapons were given "This counts as the non exotic version of this weapon".

Otherwise you are SOL.

 

[Khelvan]

I found no remark about mercurial weapons and what feats apply to them or not in Sword and Fist.
Therefore i asked here.
Will look again into it this evening, perhaps i missed something.
But if there is nothing standing there how would you handle this?

Thanks

Khelvan.

 

[robberbaron]

Sounds to me like you should be taking Weapon Focus: Mercurial Longsword, etc., just like you would if you used a Bastard Sword.

 

[irdeggman]

Arms and Equipment guide (pg 8) also hase the mercurial weapons.

It looks like they are very specifically exotic weapons.

It talks about a non-proficient user having an additional -3 penalty beyond the normal -4 nonproficiency penalty for using an exotic weapn.

No mention of having martial weapon proficiency counting.

So IMO the PC is SOL here. It is a very specific weapon, only the name makes it seem liek it is part of a "family".

Checked out Sword and Fist - it has similar text to Arms and Equipment Guide.


"In nonproficient penalty to attack rolls, beyond the normal nonproficiency penalty for using an exotic weapon untrainded."

 

[kreynolds]

The sidebar on page 116 of Complete Adventurer (covers weapon similarities in regards to chosen feats) does not mention mercurial weapons. There may be another note covering these somewhere else though, but I'm not aware of it.

Personally, I would not allow longsword feats to apply to a mercurial longsword, but I would have no problem with someone wanting to retrain their existing longsword feats into mercurial longsword feats.

 

[phindar]

If "mercurial" were a property added to the weapon (like say AE's Dire property) then the feats would likely apply, but I don't think that's how they're written. (It's been awhile since I've read mercurial weapons. They never grabbed me.) Its pretty much its own weapon, requiring its own dedicated feats.