D&D General Weapons should break left and right

[Micah Sweet]

Exactly, so my wishes and dislikes will continue to be spew out by me--one of them is to advocate for D&D to shed more of it's legacy systems.

But why? Why do you want the entire game to change for everyone to suit your desires? If the other poster to whom you were responding explained it, they've blocked me so I don't see it.

 

[Remathilis]

And for paltry sum of 51gp you can buy wagon with pair of mules and don't bother with weight at all. They can pull some weight, you don't need to lug everything on your back, don't need to walk either.

Notoriously, they stay by the door of the dungeon and never disappear or get eaten, right alongside those horses PCs buy and forget once they enter the dungeon.

(Seriously, you think it's hard for PCs to account for the gear they are carrying, it's impossible for them to remember the gear they're not...)

 

[GobHag]

But why? Why do you want the entire game to change for everyone to suit your desires? If the other poster to whom you were responding explained it, they've blocked me so I don't see it.

Because who else is going to support my desire for the game. Time, taste, and corporate meddling and other considerations by WotC will inevitably sand it off from compromise with other playstyles and reality so I should advocate the style I want as much as I can.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Notoriously, they stay by the door of the dungeon and never disappear or get eaten, right alongside those horses PCs buy and forget once they enter the dungeon.

(Seriously, you think it's hard for PCs to account for the gear they are carrying, it's impossible for them to remember the gear they're not...)

Not in my game. You have someone stay with the animals (maybe a hireling), or you risk them getting lost or eaten.

Why? Because that happens in a logical world.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Because who else is going to support my desire for the game. Time, taste, and corporate meddling and other considerations by WotC will inevitably sand it off from compromise with other playstyles and reality so I should advocate the style I want as much as I can.

So play your own game at your own table, or find a game that suits you better than D&D. IMO nothing's going to make it ok to force one's desires on a broad audience.

 

[GobHag]

Sorry, that's how new editions come about Micah.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sorry, that's how new editions come about Micah.

By people insisting everyone else change to suit them? No thanks. That's how new games come about, not new editions. And said change doesn't generally come from a desire to force others to comply to your preferences, especially if you're not a game designer or holding the purse strings.

 

[Remathilis]

Not in my game. You have someone stay with the animals (maybe a hireling), or you risk them getting lost or eaten.

Why? Because that happens in a logical world.

The point is most players forget the cart, mule and horses anyway, so they end up monster chow or worse. Because a horse is expensive. The person watching it is expensive (and honesty, what's Joe Commoner going to do against the ogre who has horse on his menu?) and none of that matters once you are in the dungeon.

 

[Remathilis]

By people insisting everyone else change to suit them? No thanks. That's how new games come about, not new editions. And said change doesn't generally come from a desire to force others to comply to your preferences, especially if you're not a game designer or holding the purse strings.

We aren't interested in D&D the Micah Sweet edition. We're interested in what is the most fun for the most amount of people.

 

[Maxperson]

Meh. Why? No one even tracks components anymore. You have a spell component case and that's the end of the tracking. And, let's be honest, the reason for this is because for the past forty or so years, while every single PHB has listed spell components, unless they were expensive, no one cared.

If you were stripped of equipment? Ok, fair enough. Then it matters. But 99.9% of the time? No one remotely cared. I remember way back in the 80's having a DM who insisted on tracking sand for sleep spells because, as he put it, you needed to blow the sand at the target. I pointed out that Sleep had an alternative spell component - a cricket's leg - that wasn't used in casting, so, I just wrote cricket's leg on my character sheet and never had to worry about it again.

You need bat guano for a fireball. Exactly how much? A pinch? An ounce? How many castings per ounce of guano do you get? Tracking this sort of stuff is pointless busywork that pretty much went the way of armor vs weapon adjustments.

Being stripped of equipment really doesn't matter as much in 5e. It happened to me once, so I went through all of my spells to see which ones I could no longer cast and was shocked to find out that a large chunk of my spells didn't use components. It was barely an inconvenience.