[WFRP] Hogshead Closes Doors

[Flexor the Mighty!]

As I work through this thread (sorry I'm late to the party; I spent last week closing down the company and working on Dragonmeet, which I chair), let me stamp on this right now. I don't dislike d20. I think it's a terrific game system. I think the OGL is a stroke of genius. Jon Tweet is one of my oldest friends in the games industry. I think D&D3e is a frigging marvel (and have said so several times, in public) and I have nothing against its players. As Mike Mearls has said, we wanted to publish d20 material for WFRP, but GW stopped us. Which is a shame because Mike's "Fear the Worst" is a brilliant adventure, and I would have loved for it to have been available to a bigger audience.

I do, however, have issues with a guy called "bloke" who used to post to RPG.net until getting himself banned a few days ago. Bloke is one of the more persistent and more annoying trolls to surface in the last year or so. Where in that RPG.net post that Wulf quoted, I talked about people using capital letters and apostrophes, I was talking to and about bloke (who doesn't). When I said "...d20 products or whatever floats your boat", that "your" isn't a generic reference to gamers and d20 fans everywhere, it's a specific reference to bloke, directed at bloke. Who likes d20, despite being an idiot.

And Thorin is not above being a little antagonistic himself, as I'm sure he'd be the first to deny vehemently. And I don't take crap from anyone.

Hey, if I hated d20 as much as you people seem to think I do, would I have let Chris Pramas and Nicole Lindroos of Green Ronin crash at my place last weekend? Eh? Eh?

I accept that, I was just replying to a thread I read on rpg.net, so if I misinterpreted it I apologize. But even if you did hate d20 I'd still buy a book you did if it appealed to me. I have a love/hate relationship with d20 myself.

 

[Mortaneus]

If you enjoy Nobilis, then this might be up your alley:

The Window

Interesting game. The writing can be a bit preachy, though.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Hey, if I hated d20 as much as you people seem to think I do, would I have let Chris Pramas and Nicole Lindroos of Green Ronin crash at my place last weekend? Eh? Eh?

Well, in all fairness, Pramas is easy on the eyes, and that nikchik's not bad either. I can think of far worse game designer house guests...


Wulf

(Thanks for popping in to clear things up... though I do wish you'd directly address that enigmatic "status quo" bit that seemed so much like a slam...)

 

[Geoffrey]

Pretty soon I'm going to dive into De Profundis. Talk about possibilities! First I'm going to have to get a post office box, just in case any Cthulhu scholar decides to take things a little too seriously.

For gamers such as myself, who don't get a chance to game much, De Profundis is a godsend. Especially since I work in a library, I can spend my workdays gaming!

 

[James Wallis]

(Thanks for popping in to clear things up...

My pleasure.

though I do wish you'd directly address that enigmatic "status quo" bit that seemed so much like a slam...)

The line at the end of the press release? It was meant to come across as "We're not so big-headed that we actually think we ever changed anything of significance in the games industry, either by being in it or by leaving it." In retrospect it could have been clearer, but once the press releases had been sent out it was too late to change.

 

[mythago]

I can think of far worse game designer house guests...

You realize that's not much of a compliment to Mr. Wallis's esteemed guests.

Is there a Nobilis thread around here somewhere? Yeah, okay, it's not d20, but still.

 

[Desdichado]

Yeah, I really like the Window. The text is a bit holier than thou once or twice, but with the right players who can make the experience a fun one, I think the system -- such as it is -- is brilliant.

 

[Piratecat]

Marienburg -- oh yes. I am very proud of the way that book came out; huge, huge kudos are due to Anthony for it, and I'm glad he's been able to use it as a launchpad into the rest of the industry because his talent is measured in tons.

Yes, indeedy! When 3e was launched, I was hoping for a D&D conversion of the city. I had been using a version of Marienberg (calling it Eversink) in my campaign for more than a year when I inadvertently discovered that my wife was good friends with Anthony (through the Cthulhu Masters tournament at GenCon.) I nudged him to have you guys do a conversion, but you had other things happening.

You guys did a great job on that product, as did Anthony, and it's one more reason to be proud of your work.