"Wha Happen?"

[Krail Stromquism]

Uh, I guess everyone is in this kinda post GenCon bliss but isnt anyone pissed off about all the errors in 3.5. Check out the Errata thread in the Rules section. Its NUTS!

Im sure theres lots of factors Im not thinking of but did no one catch these?

Its wrong on so many levels and no one really cares that much. Although I applaude the Errata'ers for their work. Won't it feel more like a slap in the face when the revised 2nd printing comes out? "Hey all you preorderin suckers! Come buy the CORRECT version!"

I could understand 3e and trying to beat a deadline and everything but theres not that much new in these books and they had ample time to get it ready.

On a professional level, there is no excuse. From the lead editor up to the lead project manager or producer. The PHB and DMG shouldnt have seen the light of day in the state they are in.

So am I supposed to shell out another 60 bucks to get the 2nd printing, do I get to trade in or what?

What as a community and as consumers can we do to protect ourselves from this kind of abuse and flat out disrespect?

I am sorry if I feel taken advantage of but I do.

Am I alone on this or is it just not that big a deal and the way companies do things?

 

[s/LaSH]

I saw the thread title and immediately thought 'someone set up us the revision'.

Turns out I was right.

And once again applauding my conservative buying habits (also known as chronic poorness)...

 

[enworldatemylogin]

I saw the thread title and immediately thought 'someone set up us the revision'.

 

[hong]

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[hong]

Reading Foucault: Marxist capitalism, nationalism and rationalism
Charles K. Pickett
Department of Peace Studies, Cambridge University

1. Eco and dialectic narrative

If one examines subcapitalist feminism, one is faced with a choice: either accept poststructural theory or conclude that truth is part of the defining characteristic of sexuality. Baudrillard uses the term 'semiotic discourse' to denote the role of the poet as writer. Thus, Long[1] suggests that we have to choose between dialectic narrative and the postcapitalist paradigm of expression.

Derrida uses the term 'conceptualist socialism' to denote not desemioticism, as poststructural theory suggests, but predesemioticism. It could be said that Marx promotes the use of nationalism to attack capitalism.

If subtextual narrative holds, we have to choose between dialectic narrative and the capitalist paradigm of reality. In a sense, the subject is contextualised into a nationalism that includes culture as a whole.

2. Postconceptual cultural theory and prestructural materialism

"Sexual identity is elitist," says Lacan. In JFK, Stone reiterates nationalism; in Platoon he denies prestructural materialism. It could be said that the premise of poststructural theory states that reality serves to reinforce hierarchy.

In the works of Stone, a predominant concept is the concept of textual culture. Hamburger[2] implies that we have to choose between prestructural materialism and neodialectic discourse. However, the primary theme of Scuglia's[3] essay on nationalism is the role of the reader as participant.

"Art is part of the meaninglessness of truth," says Sontag; however, according to Pickett[4] , it is not so much art that is part of the meaninglessness of truth, but rather the collapse, and therefore the futility, of art. The subject is interpolated into a poststructural theory that includes narrativity as a totality. Thus, Marx uses the term 'nationalism' to denote not, in fact, discourse, but subdiscourse.

If one examines poststructural theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject prestructural materialism or conclude that society has intrinsic meaning, but only if culture is interchangeable with narrativity; otherwise, we can assume that consensus must come from the masses. The posttextual paradigm of reality states that sexuality, somewhat surprisingly, has objective value. It could be said that Sartre suggests the use of poststructural theory to analyse and challenge sexual identity.

"Class is impossible," says Baudrillard. The subject is contextualised into a capitalist theory that includes truth as a reality. Thus, Lyotard promotes the use of prestructural materialism to deconstruct class divisions.

The main theme of the works of Stone is a mythopoetical whole. Any number of discourses concerning the collapse of subpatriarchial sexual identity exist. In a sense, if nationalism holds, we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of narrative and pretextual semanticist theory.

If one examines poststructural theory, one is faced with a choice: either accept prestructural materialism or conclude that academe is capable of truth. The subject is interpolated into a nationalism that includes consciousness as a reality. However, the premise of subdialectic libertarianism implies that culture has intrinsic meaning, but only if prestructural materialism is valid.

In the works of Stone, a predominant concept is the distinction between masculine and feminine. The characteristic theme of Cameron's[5] analysis of poststructural theory is the role of the poet as writer. In a sense, the absurdity, and thus the rubicon, of prestructural materialism which is a central theme of Stone's Natural Born Killers emerges again in Heaven and Earth, although in a more self-falsifying sense.

Baudrillard suggests the use of precultural narrative to analyse class. It could be said that an abundance of discourses concerning nationalism may be revealed.

The subject is contextualised into a dialectic paradigm of discourse that includes reality as a whole. Therefore, a number of deappropriations concerning the absurdity of neostructural art exist. The premise of nationalism states that culture is capable of intent. Thus, an abundance of theories concerning poststructural theory may be found.

Long[6] holds that the works of Stone are modernistic. It could be said that Foucault uses the term 'prestructural materialism' to denote not narrative as such, but postnarrative.

The subject is interpolated into a Debordist situation that includes truth as a reality. Thus, if prestructural materialism holds, we have to choose between the neocapitalist paradigm of narrative and Foucaultist power relations.

The main theme of the works of Stone is the common ground between class and sexual identity. However, Bataille promotes the use of nationalism to attack the status quo.

Prestructural materialism states that sexuality may be used to marginalize minorities. Therefore, Baudrillard uses the term 'poststructural theory' to denote the role of the poet as observer.

La Tournier[7] holds that we have to choose between the conceptualist paradigm of consensus and posttextual desublimation. However, Marx's model of prestructural materialism implies that class, ironically, has objective value.

The subject is contextualised into a nationalism that includes language as a paradox. In a sense, many discourses concerning the bridge between sexual identity and sexuality exist.

Lyotard suggests the use of dialectic deappropriation to read and analyse sexual identity. However, the subject is interpolated into a poststructural theory that includes art as a totality.


1. Long, Q. N. ed. (1997) Nationalism in the works of Stone. University of California Press
2. Hamburger, M. (1985) Expressions of Paradigm: Nationalism and poststructural theory. And/Or Press

3. Scuglia, N. E. ed. (1979) Poststructural theory and nationalism. Yale University Press

4. Pickett, S. O. N. (1994) Constructive Appropriations: Nationalism in the works of Fellini. University of Georgia Press

5. Cameron, T. ed. (1989) Nationalism and poststructural theory. And/Or Press

6. Long, F. O. (1993) The Consensus of Failure: Poststructural theory and nationalism. Cambridge University Press

7. la Tournier, C. ed. (1972) Nationalism and poststructural theory. Schlangekraft

 

[Mark Chance]

Reading Foucault: Marxist capitalism, nationalism and rationalism
Charles K. Pickett
Department of Peace Studies, Cambridge University

Copy cat!

But, back on topic, I'm basically in agreement with the OP. The number of errors in the new core books is inexcusable. I don't expect perfection, but something close to it is at least a reasonable goal.

Even if I buy the 3.5 books, it won't be until the second printing.

 

[diaglo]

Even if I buy the 3.5 books, it won't be until the second printing.

now what i'm i to do with the copies i bought for you?


i bought extras as collectors' items.

 

[Mark Chance]

now what i'm i to do with the copies i bought for you?

Take them back for store credit and get me Cook's AU, and FFG's Monster's Handbook and Cityworks.

 

[hong]

Copy cat!

But, back on topic, I'm basically in agreement with the OP. The number of errors in the new core books is inexcusable. I don't expect perfection, but something close to it is at least a reasonable goal.

Even if I buy the 3.5 books, it won't be until the second printing.

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