D&D 5E (2014) What’s So Great About Medieval Europe?

[FlyingChihuahua]

Yep thats why Medieval Europe sucked.

Although it is an interesting adventuring location, which might be more important for the game.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yep thats why Medieval Europe sucked.

Considering what happened in Europe 1940s. Or Syria recently not much has really changed. We might be better at justifying it.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Considering what happened in Europe 1940s. Or Syria recently not much has really changed. We might be better at justifying it.

Never said Modern Europe did not suck as well.

Although it is an interesting adventuring location, which might be more important for the game.

That was the point I made when I first posted. It sucks, but it would be cool for adventuring.

 

[Krachek]

Ken Hite described early D&D as

The original D&D seems, quite obviously, to be a pastiche of Fritz Leiber and Robert E. Howard adventure stories, set in a Tolkeinian world of Moorcockian morality, using Jack Vance's magic system, redacted for multiple protagonists. No wonder things are confused.

These days it includes more renaissance era and steampunk along with a mess of other "rule of cool" stuff grafted on.

It works best if you either don't try for realism or ignore inconvenient implications of the system. Its fun and that's what matters.

You are quite right.
5ed is as cool as an Instagram profile.
so we play in a cool medieval vintage post.

 

[Zardnaar]

Never said Modern Europe did not suck as well.

That was the point I made when I first posted. It sucks, but it would be cool for adventuring.

The problem being these overly evolved monkeys with opposing thumbs.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Well not quite. Some prospective crusaders just turned into bandits and did not even go to Constantinople.

There was a good series of videos on the fiasco that was the 1st Crusade, and how most of it was largely just sacking towns in Europe instead of the guys they were supposed to be fighting.

Did you miss the part where I said that the later crusades were largely external to Europe?
Not sure how more stuff about the 1st Crusade is a relevant reply to that?

Considering what happened in Europe 1940s. Or Syria recently not much has really changed. We might be better at justifying it.

Fewer people die from violence now than ever before in history. The idea that not much has changed is objectively false.

The problem being these overly evolved monkeys with opposing thumbs.

Yeah man what kind of cursed creature comes up with vaccines and such efficient farming that fewer people go hungry now than ever in known history.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

Yeah man what kind of cursed creature comes up with vaccines and such efficient farming that fewer people go hungry now than ever in known history.

To bad that by doing that farming we're chopping down important biological niches that are necessary for the earth as we know it to continue.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Did you miss the part where I said that the later crusades were largely external to Europe?
Not sure how more stuff about the 1st Crusade is a relevant reply to that?

Yeah but I was talking about the 1st Crusade to start with. Cause the others did not have much to do with Europe.

 

[jasper]

Re: Tolkien and Gygax.

Gary probably found The Lord of the Rings to be too long and slow moving for his tastes, judging by the rest of Appendix N. But that doesn't have anything to do with whether he thought Tolkien-ian content was appropriate in the games he created.

D&D has always been an indiscriminate magpie when it comes to its choice of sources.

Slowing raises his hand. I discovered in Jr high why some books were called Arm Chair books. Because you had to read them in an arm chair or fall asleep.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

To bad that by doing that farming we're chopping down important biological niches that are necessary for the earth as we know it to continue.

Yeah, you'll always be able to twist the world to suit your own pessimism if you are invested in doing so. I'm not interesting in having this argument with you again, though.

Yeah but I was talking about the 1st Crusade to start with. Cause the others did not have much to do with Europe.

Right, and I pointed out that only 1 crusade was like that. Replying with "well here's more info about the 1st crusade" as if I'd commented on the 1st crusade, when I didn't, isn't...relevant to my reply.