What about Xander?

[Felon]

The designers of d20 Modern were pretty unabashed about using Buffy the Vampire Slayer as one of their sources of inspiration. They used BtVS's cast of characters as examples of how d20 Modern characters develop and advance. It's not too hard to peg most of the characters' basic classes. Buffy is Strong, Fast, and Tough. Giles is Smart and Dedicated. Willow is just Smart (I don't think she's exercised a lot of wisdom over the years, so I'm passing on Dedicated for her). But what about Xander?

The best I've been able to do for him is Tough Hero, using the Resilient talent tree. It's a tough call, because Xander gets clobbered every damn time. But he survives. In other words, not so much Michael Meyers tough, but more like Daffy Duck tough.

What do you guys think?

 

[WizarDru]

The best I've been able to do for him is Tough, using the Resilient talent tree. It's a tough call, because Xander gets clobbered every damn time. But he survives. In other words, not so much Michael Meyers tough, but more like Daffy Duck tough.

What do you guys think?

Wouldn't ShadowChasers be slightly more appropriate for a Buffy stating?

Xander has the feat:

[Normal Life] This character actually has a paying, full-time job. He can drive a car, and owns one. He has no freaky powers, and does not attract the unwanted attention of bizarre demons, vampires and otherworldly powers. When in a situation where such creatures attack, this character is the last to get attacked unless he attacks first, and is usually the last to be Coup de Graced. He may be made into a rat-eating man-b@#$*.

 

[Bagpuss]

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Wouldn't ShadowChasers be slightly more appropriate for a Buffy stating?

Personally I would have thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG would have been more appropriate.

 

[Felon]

Re: Re: What about Xander?

Wouldn't ShadowChasers be slightly more appropriate for a Buffy stating?

Sure, sounds like ideal Shadow Chasers material. Giles would make a fine Occultist. Did you infer otherwise from something I said?

Xander has the feat:

[Normal Life] This character actually has a paying, full-time job. He can drive a car, and owns one. He has no freaky powers, and does not attract the unwanted attention of bizarre demons,

Actually, one of the running gags in BtVS is that Xander attracts weirdos, such as the praying mantis teacher that had the job for him.

Anyway, what I'm asking is, what basic classes should Xander have?

Personally I would have thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer RPG would have been more appropriate.

Don't be terribly surprised when the d20 version of that RPG comes out. At any rate, that's beside the point. I'm talking about BtVS in d20 Modern terms, and how to fit the characters to that system.

 

[Bagpuss]

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Don't be terribly surprised when the d20 version of that RPG comes out. At any rate, that's beside the point. I'm talking about BtVS in d20 Modern terms, and how to fit the characters to that system.

I would be terribly surprised to be honest. I doubt Eden would publish it after they have done such a cracking job with there version and they have the license.

 

[Felon]

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I would be terribly surprised to be honest. I doubt Eden would publish it after they have done such a cracking job with there version and they have the license.

Sure, but Eden can use that license to produce a d20 version of their game. Nothing new or radical about that.

 

[Henry]

I also think that what Felon is getting at, Bagpuss, is whether or not Eden will come out with a d20 conversion of their game if their system does not sell well.

I looked at the Eden system, and was somewhat unsatisfied with it, myself. However, it seems more geared toward playing the roles of the main characters, and this never sets well with me in a game - Whether it is Star Wars, Buffy, or Dragonlance, recreating already-told stories doesn't appeal to me in an RPG. I realize I could create my own characters, but again, the rules seemed geared against that.

 

[DonB]

Forcibly dragging this back to the original question...

Not having actually got my grubby mitts on d20 Modern just yet, I don't have the ins and outs down, but I'd call Xander Tough and Dedicated. He's got the Daffy Duck physical resilience, but he also bounces back from some serious weirdness with his sanity intact, talks Willow back from the brink, is always there for Buffy, etc.

Don

 

[Hand of Evil]

Xander is Jesus!

Think about it, saved the world from evil Willow with only love and he is a carpenter! Willing to sacrfice himself for the cause!

Loyal and conviction.

 

[Felon]

Forcibly dragging this back to the original question...
Not having actually got my grubby mitts on d20 Modern just yet, I don't have the ins and outs down, but I'd call Xander Tough and Dedicated. He's got the Daffy Duck physical resilience, but he also bounces back from some serious weirdness with his sanity intact, talks Willow back from the brink, is always there for Buffy, etc.
Don

See, I was thinking Charismatic Hero for the same reasons you're thinking Dedicated.

I gave some thought to Dedicated, with the Empathic talent tree, but he's not exactly mister pokerface. His attempts at bluffing or diplomacy generally fail miserably. And remember how effortlessly Dracula was able to dominate him? Not exactly a great Will save there

Then there's Charismatic Hero. He certainly adds a lot of heart to the group. Maybe he doesn't provide strategy or leadership, but he does his bit to inspire the group and keep things from looking too bleak. However, people in general write him off as a loser and a nobody. Not exactly a high-charisma trait there.