What Alignment is V?

[Olgar Shiverstone]

I thought this thread was going to be about Vaarsuvius.

Likewise, though my response was Neutral Haughty.

 

[Yttrai]

I thought this thread was going to be about Vaarsuvius. I would have said Eliteist-Pedant.

Me too, plus it made me tense that people kept calling V "him".

 

[Felix]

His torture of Evey is the only truly evil act I think he commited

As well as the murder of the repentant doctor. He said it mattered that she was sorry, but he still condemned her to death. Nice and sensitive, but still an Evil act.

 

[Agent Oracle]

Wait: which V?

The vendetta,

The visitor,

The vector

The Vampire hunter?

("Pssst... That one's D not V.")
Oh, sorry... umn, well, which V is it?

 

[Aust Diamondew]

In the DnD world where its okay to kill people rather ruthlessly then he'd be CG, no question.

In the real world he's no more evil or good than anyone who uses violence as a means to an ends.
Was it evil for America to drop the A-Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Hell was it evil to fight a war period.
Is it evil to kill an evil person with out due process of law (for example Al Zarquawi)?

It really comes down to:
A) Do you consider killing to be evil regardless of who you kill.
and if yes;
B) Can the ends of commiting an evil act be justified if the out come is positive enough (utilitarianism).

For instance you could say that killing is always evil but it can be justified if it prevents someone from hurting your family or prevents millions of others from dying (the needs of the many out weight the needs of the few for example).

Is good or evil defined by the ends or by the means? Both?

 

[Felix]

In the DnD world where its okay to kill people rather ruthlessly then he'd be CG, no question.

Or does V kill because these are the people who tortured him so terribly? Is revenge killing that justifiable?

V is for Vendetta, after all.

And man, you'd better snip that Real World stuff if you don't want this thread to get locked.

 

[Nifft]

I'm surprised not to have heard the obvious choice: Chaotic Awesome.

It's funny how people want to nail a static morality descriptor on a person who only exists in the context of a plot that deliberately explores the boundries of morality.

-- N

 

[Meloncov]

I'm surprised not to have heard the obvious choice: Chaotic Awesome.

It's funny how people want to nail a static morality descriptor on a person who only exists in the context of a plot that deliberately explores the boundries of morality.

-- N

It is, but in D&D, it's important to know what happens if someone casts Unholy Blight on him.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

As well as the murder of the repentant doctor. He said it mattered that she was sorry, but he still condemned her to death. Nice and sensitive, but still an Evil act.

I dunno. That seemed like justice to me. There are things that you can't wash away with "I'm sorry" no matter how sincere. She was another Josef Mengele.

 

[Felix]

I dunno. That seemed like justice to me.

Poison. Helpless victim. Poetic justice considering what she'd done. And what she did was evil. Does her evilness make her killing that way less evil? Or is it good to use evil methods on evil people?

There are things that you can't wash away with "I'm sorry" no matter how sincere.

Can you wash some things away at all? Lifetime of pennance? Lifetime of working to prevent that sort of thing again? Maybe not. But like V said, it's never too late to be sorry. So it does matter that she was. Not enough to save her life though.