What Alignment is V?

[Nomad4life]

TN.

But only because everyone is actually TN.

 

[Felix]

But only because everyone is actually TN.

So are animals. Is that why?

 

[Nifft]

It is, but in D&D, it's important to know what happens if someone casts Unholy Blight on him.

In D&D, you have more than 90 minutes of context, and your alignment is expected to change with your actions, rather than to reflect all your actions perfectly.

-- N

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Can you wash some things away at all? Lifetime of pennance? Lifetime of working to prevent that sort of thing again? Maybe not. But like V said, it's never too late to be sorry. So it does matter that she was. Not enough to save her life though.

I guess I'm of the mindset that some things can never be forgiven.

 

[Felix]

I guess I'm of the mindset that some things can never be forgiven.

Well, forgiveness isn't a necessary component to not killing someone. You don't have to forgive, nor do you have to avenge yourself upon them. And V was consumed by his need to avenge himself and the others killed.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

CG - His torture of Evey is the only truly evil act I think he commited.

I'd put both kidnapping Evey and imprisoning her against her will as rather evil acts as well. I don't just lump those under "torture" either.

 

[VirgilCaine]

Poison. Helpless victim. Poetic justice considering what she'd done. And what she did was evil. Does her evilness make her killing that way less evil? Or is it good to use evil methods on evil people?

No, it's neutral.

"Good" implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others. "Evil" implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or master.

He didn't have respect for her life, but she wasn't innocent. It was neutral.

I say he's Chaotic Good. You can be Good and still do some evil things, AFAIK.

 

[domino]

So Chaotic Neutral it hurts.

 

[Gentlegamer]

Going by the graphic novel, either chaotic neutral or neutral evil.

 

[Graf]

He’s Lawful.

I understand the desire to have the wronged main character against society be “chaotic good” but V just isn’t.
Being against a specific society doesn’t mean you have to be chaotic.
A lawful good paladin can easily be against the Red Wizards of Thay without having to worry about violating his alignment… why does V have to be Chaotic?

He’s got his own code of conduct, based on social norms before the time the books are set. He follows intensely (to the point of effectively committing suicide). His goals are set based on (warped) concepts of justice and “proper” behavior.
He's obsessed with following social norms that other people don't follow but its not a rebellion.
He's fundimentally a force for traditionalism. His anarchist message is based around a reactionary desire to return to an older period of government.

He does terrible things to people (including but not limited to Evey in the comic) and regrets that he is doing them but feels compelled to because of “duty” or “obligation”.

His motivations are vague and the movie scene at the end suggests that he’s a force for positive social change, but that doesn’t make him good.