What Breaks Through a Daemon's DR?

[dmccoy1693]

Devils - Silver, Demons - Cold Iron, Daemons???

In Pathfinder 8, it's only good. In ToH, Revised, Daemons it's listed as /silver or cold iron. IMO, both make no sense. So, what makes the most sense to you? Why if possible.

 

[frankthedm]

Devils - Silver, Demons - Cold Iron, Daemons???

In Pathfinder 8, it's only good. In ToH, Revised, Daemons it's listed as /silver or cold iron. IMO, both make no sense. So, what makes the most sense to you? Why if possible.

Well, I'd say go by the most recently printed.

Also both silver or cold iron being effective is because there is not so much a a material of GOOD alignment. Silver is proof against Law and Horror monsters, Cold Iron hurts Chaotic critters, Witches and fea.

Also as fiends grow in power, DR is supposed to be harder to break.

silver or cold iron or Good < Good < Good & silver or Good & Cold Iron

 

[dmccoy1693]

Right, but I mean shouldn't Daemons have their own deadly material? At current I like neither cold iron/silver/good or just good. I want good and ... some other material. Maybe a soap covered sword would do it? (yes, I'm kidding.) But seriously, any nominations for a daemon specific material? Like maybe adamentine?

 

[(un)reason]

They always used to take double damage from cold attacks. I think that counts as their special weakness, rather than having it be a weapon type one. It means you have to use different tactics to when you're facing the other feinds, and spellcasters get to be more effective.

 

[Arkhandus]

I'm fairly sure silver WAS their weakness in 2E or something....

But if you wanted to add a different material, it would probably be mithral. There's no real point to mithral weapons at present. Adamantine ones have at least some small advantages, and I think slaadi are weak against them (though slaadi aren't OGC).

 

[Aus_Snow]

In some other sources, it is mithral. That could work anyway, I suppose.

Or just create something. A type of metal, perhaps pale gold in colour, or icy silver-green. Whatever. Give it some slight drawback maybe, or not. And have it cut through a variety of NE DRs, would be my advice. As per cold iron and fey, etc.

Oh, and a name.

 

[dmccoy1693]

Mithral it is, thanks guys!!!

 

[Voadam]

I think it was nickel in the 1e MMII.

I think they dropped that in 3.5 because it does not have a lot of mythic resonance and they wanted to limit the number of major special materials.

I believe in Green Ronin's Book of Fiends they go with magic then good then good and epic for DR of their daemons, though I'd have to look it up to be sure.

 

[dmccoy1693]

I believe in Green Ronin's Book of Fiends they go with magic then good then good and epic for DR of their daemons, though I'd have to look it up to be sure.

magic weapons kind of lack a certain punch, IMO, that carrying a silver or cold iron weapon does. I mean if you are carrying a cold iron weapon, everyone knows you're going after fae and demons. A magic weapon ... eh. Boring. Its "Bob and his +1 short sword," as opposed to "Faelicks and his +4 Good Daemon Bane Mithral Bastard Sword named Calion."

One of those is HOT!!!

(EDIT: WHen I typed the Faelicks bit, I could only think of [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZdka4c4t8"]Boomer's voice doing Blackrazor.[/ame] I've watched to many PSAs.)

 

[Set]

I had one of the evil fiend types DR overcome by weapons of wood and bone (or other organic materials, such as claws, teeth and a Monk's spinning backfist). I vaguely recall seeing weapons of obsidian as one DR penetrating material and weapons of jade as another DR penetrating material.

Or you be tricky and give something DR 20/nonlethal. You can subdue it with any sort of weapon, but you can never *kill* it with one...