What do I want? An apology.

[grimslade]

Apologize?

Although I have absolutely no connection to WotC, I hereby sincerely and humbly apologize.
I was wrong. More than wrong, I have wronged you, your ancestors and your children. Sorry.

While I think the non-renewal of Dragon/Dungeon license to Paizo was a bad business move, I don't think an apology is the correct form of discourse from WotC. I mean, what's the point? My apology is as heartfelt as a generic corporate "oops, my bad". What I would like to see is some teaser info on the DI. Maybe a developer blog like Paizo or WotC with the Star Wars Saga rules.
That might make feel like there is no Sphere of Annihilation come October.

Grim

 

[Mercule]

One might say the same about threads scolding people for expressing their displeasure...

The irony was not lost on me, even as I typed.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Sorry, PC. I was actually just being silly, not snarky.

 

[Grimstaff]

The irony was not lost on me, even as I typed.

Hopefully, we'll soon have to bash bash threads bashing bashers for bashing bashers who bash basher bashers.

Its like standing in front of one of those endless mirrors...

 

[Mercule]

Hopefully, we'll soon have to bash bash threads bashing bashers for bashing bashers who bash basher bashers.

Its like standing in front of one of those endless mirrors...

Sir, you need to shut up and stop mocking me. I am but expressing my feelings.

 

[Owen K.C. Stephens]

I think saying you want an apology is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. It's sends a message about what you, as a customer, want. It's a specific request rather than a rant about damage done or vague declaration of dissatisfaction. It's in a forum there's some chance a WotC rep might read. It's direct dollar cost is low. It's just up to WotC to decide if they think enough people want an apology that it becomes a good idea for them to make one.

Now, I don't think that's going to happen. It seems unlikely WotC is going to decide stating they made a mistake is a good move for them, and they may well be right. I personally don't even think WotC has dome itself a noteworthy amount of harm with how they handled this. To me, the quality of the DI when it arrives (including how they advertise and support it) is the only relevant factor worth worrying about.

But asking for an apology is concise, doable, and in this case was even handled politely. Nothing wrong with that, however unlikely it may be.

I am going to be curious to see how people, react -if- the DI goes well, and -if- it spreads the overall popularity of D&D. Of course, I doubt we'll even be able to measure those things in an unbiased or realistic way.

 

[JRRNeiklot]

My biggest beef with the whole scenario is the irony. They cancel Dragon in lieu of online content, yet if we bitch about it, we're just that internet crowd that doesn't matter. Good luck selling it to the non-internet people.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I am going to be curious to see how people, react -if- the DI goes well, and -if- it spreads the overall popularity of D&D. Of course, I doubt we'll even be able to measure those things in an unbiased or realistic way.

Well, if there's a big influx of new D&D players soon after, unless they've got something REALLY big up their sleeves, it'll probably have to be attributed to it. If it's a more modest success, who knows.

I think it'll likely be a modest success and a lot of people simply won't talk about their initial responses, and those that do will likely say what many moderate people have been saying all along: "You know, I wouldn't have handled it the way that WotC did."

That said, I've got $100 that there will be a periodical called Dragon on news stands five years from now, whatever happens with the DI.

 

[Odhanan]

For me this whole issue is no longer about anger. I'm not searching for Dragon or Dungeon to come back, and I feel it's too late for apologies.

To quote my answer to someone over at WotC's boards:

Times change and you need to keep up with it.

No, I don't have to. It's our own choice to make, individually.

Much like I don't own a cell phone or an iPod, I can choose to live without DI. I can be upset about WotC's decision, it's my right as an individual. I can choose to not follow them on this. This won't stop my gaming.

And as a matter of fact, I choose not to follow them. I choose to support people who believe in the craft that is D&D. I choose not to support big businesses solely interested in the short-term issues and the "bottom-line" for the stock holders or the parent company's sake. I choose to support the people who believe and love the same hobby I came to love in all those years, and not the people who would change because of marketing interests.

Thought followed emotion. Decision followed thought.

I'm happy and move on with my choice. I've opened my eyes. No wailing. No complaining. I'm just aware of the choices I make, from now on.

 

[Nifft]

Me too. But I also want folks to remember that while they're upset, they're still to be civil here on the boards -- and that if you happen to think folks are complaining too much, el senor Dustyboots, injecting snarky comments isn't the way to express it.

Uh-oh... *walks out quietly*

Not snarky at all, no sir, -- N