What do you think so far?

[KarinsDad]

And it might be that iterative attacks won't go beyond 2. Compare that to 3e's 4-8 attacks per round on higher levels.

Doubtful.

Star Wars allows for 3 attacks per round with their version of iterative.

The Dragon example allowed for 5 attacks in round one plus an immediate action. Granted, it was a creature and not a PC, but with first level Rangers getting off 3 arrows in a surprise round plus potentially 2 more opportunity arrows, it's not looking like the iterative attack issue was actually resolved.

 

[Uder]

The fluff sounds interesting, the rules sound awful, and the marketing BS (both the official stuff, and the behavior create by the marketing virus) is making me see red.

The campaign as "points of light" idea along with dropping the Blood War and other little ideas brings D&D more in line with my home campaign, which means generic modules and supplements might be more useful than the core books.

So I'll probably read the books without buying them, incorporate the good, waste no cash on the bad and keep on trucking with C&C.

 

[KB9JMQ]

What I have seen so far looks good.
As long as the end product makes it easier to be a DM and the players have just as much fun then it will be ok.

 

[kmdietri]

I have an impending sense of dread that the squeaky wheels are getting the grease and the baby is going to be launched a long way with the bath water. While the silent majority is giong to get the shaft.

But maybe my status as a 3.* lover is skewing my perception....

 

[hong]

So far it's looking pretty good, but I'd like more info on the power curve. Specifically, when does game-changing magic show up? Eg are spells like teleport and raise dead still available to 9th level characters, and if not, when do they become available? What about fly, plane shift, resurrection and wish? This kind of magic has a huge impact on how the game works at higher levels.

 

[Mercule]

Definitely gotta go with "Looks good so far." I've seen a few points I'm not fond of, but they're vastly outweighed by the stuff that I think sounds great.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Heck, even the "not so fond of" category is open to some acceptance as we get more info -- I'm already starting to shift my thinking on the monster design.

 

[Maliki]

Parts of it sound good, then other things make me sick to even think about what they are doing to D&D. It does have me curious enough to be looking forward to the release of the PHB.

 

[Grimstaff]

My favorite change so far (or "possible" change, I guess, until we see the final product) is the extension of the "sweet spot" power level by about 8 levels or so.

 

[Baby Samurai]

I'm all over it, the second I get my carnie hands on that PHB I'm going to shove it straight up my bottom!

As my group is using Incarnum, ToB, ToM and ported over many of the changes from Saga, we already feel like we're playing a sort of 3.75, and from what I've seen 4th edition is going in exactly the direction I want.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Hmmm doesnt that seem just a tiny bit gun-jumpish, since we have in actuality next to no information and any of it might change at any time?

Much of what is currently known will not change, not before 5e (if ever), rest assured.

It is those things that I have based my decisions on, along with some of 4e's talking up that has gone on - they're not speaking to me, this much is clear. And really, nothing that the marketing effort can add to the data already available will change my mind now.

As I said, I wanted to like it, and even tried to at first. But, when it comes down to it, I don't *need* another edition in the first place. I (and others) like my house-ruled 3e, and assorted d20 material, just fine. Spending even more money just to get a basically incompatible game pretty much for the sake of it, and what's more, a game that already clearly features and emphasises elements I (and others) find rather distasteful. . . well, that would be *more* than a tiny bit "gun-jumpish", to say the least, for me and mine.

YMMV, and so forth.