What does Remove Curse reveal?

[Red_Eric]

A PC has been cursed (in this case as a result of picking up a cursed item).
If the PC suspects he’s been cursed but is unsure how, will the Remove Curse spell reveal the cause of the trouble, i.e. the specific item or that it’s a spell/condition etc. not tied to an item at all, but the person himself?

Thanks for any help!

 

[Empirate]

Remove Curse simply gets rid of the curse in question (if there is one). After casting it, you can normally be sure that you're not cursed now, if ever you were - but you don't gain any information on whether you were, in fact, cursed, what the curse's cause was, or anything else about the curse.

If you're not sure you're cursed, you should probably try and employ some (clerical) divination magic first. Status may work, although "cursed" is not a condition (in the game term sense of the word). Depends on DM's interpretation. Clever phrasing can make Augury or Divination work, as well. Commune is probably your best bet (Lesser Planar Bind/Ally an Imp to do it for free).

The latter can also be done by an arcane caster. Their other options are rather limited: Contact Other Plane is one of the most horrible spells in the game. Analyze Dweomer is useful for detecting curses - if they are the result of a spell effect.

 

[Jimlock]

Doesn't identify work just fine on cursed items?

 

[anest1s]

Doesn't identify work just fine on cursed items?

Cursed Items :: d20srd.org

A simple detect magic spell yields a misleading aura and strength, often indicating that the item is a noncursed item of similar sort. An identify spell only has a 1% chance per caster level to reveal a cursed item’s true properties, including the cursed aspect. Analyze dweomer reveals the true nature of a cursed item.

 

[Jimlock]

Cursed Items :: d20srd.org

A simple detect magic spell yields a misleading aura and strength, often indicating that the item is a noncursed item of similar sort. An identify spell only has a 1% chance per caster level to reveal a cursed item’s true properties, including the cursed aspect. Analyze dweomer reveals the true nature of a cursed item.

Thanx! I had forgotten how that works...

 

[Red_Eric]

Thanks for your answers.

PHB p270: ”Remove Curse instantaneously removes all curses on an object or a creature. Remove Curse does not remove the curse from a cursed shield, weapon, or suit of armor, although the spell typically enables the creature afflicted with any such cursed item to remove and get rid of it.”

Is the following interpretation correct then?:
If a creature has been cursed by a picked up object, Remove Curse removes the curse both from the object itself (if it’s not a cursed shield, weapon or suit of armor) and the creature so that keeping the object is no longer harmful and if the item is passed to another creature, that creature is not affected since the object is no longer cursed?

(Still trying to learn.)

 

[Dross]

Thanks for your answers.

PHB p270: ”Remove Curse instantaneously removes all curses on an object or a creature. Remove Curse does not remove the curse from a cursed shield, weapon, or suit of armor, although the spell typically enables the creature afflicted with any such cursed item to remove and get rid of it.”

Is the following interpretation correct then?:
If a creature has been cursed by a picked up object, Remove Curse removes the curse both from the object itself (if it’s not a cursed shield, weapon or suit of armor) and the creature so that keeping the object is no longer harmful and if the item is passed to another creature, that creature is not affected since the object is no longer cursed?

(Still trying to learn.)

DM call really as it does not say either way. It is a reasonable reading of the text

I Notice that the Loadstone/Stone of Weight allows someone to throw the item away and not haunt the individual. This implies it could affect someone else rather then not being cursed at all, otherwise, it should just SAY: the curse is removed from the stone. (then again, I could easily be over reading it )

Personally I prefer that any item needs to be broken, all magics removed from it, or a special ceremony/task/quest is used to remove the curse. Remove Curse allows you to get rid of it.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Is the following interpretation correct then?:
If a creature has been cursed by a picked up object, Remove Curse removes the curse both from the object itself (if it’s not a cursed shield, weapon or suit of armor) and the creature so that keeping the object is no longer harmful and if the item is passed to another creature, that creature is not affected since the object is no longer cursed?

(Still trying to learn.)

Close, but not quite.

Remove Curse has a target of "Creature or Item Touched" - so it affects one or the other, but not both.

If a character is carrying a cursed item such as a sword, shield, or armor, you cast remove curse on the item to allow the character to put it down, take it off, etc., but it does not permanently remove the curse.

If, instead, they are carrying a cursed potion (which would have an adverse effect is swallowed), you can instead cast Remove Curse on the potion, turning it from a "Cursed Potion of Mage Armor" into a "Potion of Mage Armor."

You would instead cast the spell on a character to remove the effects of the Bestow Curse spell, etc.

 

[Red_Eric]

Thanks!

So if a PC has picked up for example a book, a coin, a gem and an evil looking fetish plus has let an old croon touch him, there’s a problem to discern the source of the curse.
Let’s say that picking up that gem put a curse on him. The curse is also making him reluctant to throw the gem away and the mere possession of the gem is enough to maintain the curse.
So casting Remove Curse on the PC won’t help much unless the gem somehow is neutralized or got ridden of too. Otherwise the holder will get cursed again (immediately or after say 24 hours of possession) since the item is still in his pocket. (Thus my original question.)

Maybe this type of curse setup is too complicated, but there are examples of cursed items that aren’t sword, shield or armor.

 

[irdeggman]

Thanks for your answers.

PHB p270: ”Remove Curse instantaneously removes all curses on an object or a creature. Remove Curse does not remove the curse from a cursed shield, weapon, or suit of armor, although the spell typically enables the creature afflicted with any such cursed item to remove and get rid of it.”

Is the following interpretation correct then?:
If a creature has been cursed by a picked up object, Remove Curse removes the curse both from the object itself (if it’s not a cursed shield, weapon or suit of armor) and the creature so that keeping the object is no longer harmful and if the item is passed to another creature, that creature is not affected since the object is no longer cursed?

(Still trying to learn.)

The quote you made contains the answer.

It does not remove the curse from cursed items, it does remove the curse from the wielder so that he can remove and get rid of it.

Think in terms of thaat it dampens the effect long enough to get rid of the item - it does not remove the curse from the item.