What happens to a body when it is brought to -74?

[Hypersmurf]

No fair adding in HP loss due to Con damage! Heheh, very nice indeed.

Well, the Con damage can't take him below 11, so the bolt still had to do 73 points of real damage.

-Hyp.

 

[kirinke]

lol

ok. -70 something hit points.

he's like well...
think of a watermellon ok?
now imagine this mellon falling from a 100ft sky-scraper and hitting the pavement 5 seconds later.
*grins as she watches the player's face squench up.
now. roll up another character.
^_^

 

[Jolly Giant]

Well, the Con damage can't take him below 11, so the bolt still had to do 73 points of real damage.

-Hyp.

He was brought to zero CON, which means instant death. I figured that equaled -10 hp... (He had a lousy CON-score, was planning on becoming an undead...)

 

[Hypersmurf]

He was brought to zero CON, which means instant death. I figured that equaled -10 hp... (He had a lousy CON-score, was planning on becoming an undead...)

Sure. But that wouldn't take him to -62.

Let's say he had a max of 25 hit points, and a Con of 10.

Injury-type poison can only take effect if the attack deals damage. If, for example, the attack is completely negated by DR, the poison doesn't work. So the effect of the poison is calculated after the hit point damage is considered.

If his Con drops to 1 (so a modifier of -4 hit points per die), his Max hit points do not drop to -19; they cannot drop below 11. So if the bolt dealt 13 damage, and he took 9 points of Con damage from the poison, he ends up first with 12/25 hit points, but then (after Con damage) on -2/11.

If his Con drops to 0 (-5 hit points per die), his Max hit points still can't drop below 11. First 12/25, then -2/11... but since he has 0 con, he's dead, and his final hit point tally is -10/11.

If the bolt instead dealt 40 points of damage and dropped his Con to 0, strictly his hit points are at -10 since he's dead. But if you want to follow it through below that, the damage drops him to -15/25, and the Con drain makes it -29/11. Since -29 is definitely dead, the fact that Con 0 would also kill him doesn't change that final total at all.

To drop a Wiz-11 to -62 hit points from full would require the bolt to deal 73 points of damage, exclusive of the Con damage.

-Hyp.

 

[shilsen]

What happens to a body when it is brought to -74?

If it's the body of a Frenzied Berserker who is actually frenzied at the time, apparently nothing Or so it was in 3.0 (I haven't seen the 3.5 version). I remember someone posting about having the FB in the party go to -200 and beyond in a fight and still keep going. The DM described it as a mist of blood with a greataxe.

 

[Umbran]

Considering that hit points don't really correspond to actual damage to the body while it is alive, why should we think they correspond to actual damage to the body after it has died?

I mean, yeah, the guy is deader than the deadest of doornails. You can apply whatever cinematic effects you want after that, just as you would to the combat while he was alive. But -74 doesn't mean anything specific, any more than the first 10 points he lost mean something specific.

 

[frankthedm]

Semi-serious semi-funny question:
Last quest, the Raging Barbarian PC got grappled by a pissed off Glabrezu that proceeded to crush him to death to -74 HP... in ONE ROUND.

What would happen to a body after that much HP is lost? Liquefied? Gooified? Pastefied?
Would weapon and item damage come into effect? Other stuff?

I'm just mildly curious, I've never seen hp get that low, so it was a bit of a surprise...

Large critter, medium victim, 64 point overkill? ouuuch

Head torn off, helmet crushed by bite, neclace safe. armor,backpack, cape and shirt ruined ruined by big pincers, leave the weapon, rings and bracers be. belt ruined as lower claws tore his guts out. boots ok.

 

[Coredump]

In my games we call that the "chunky salsa effect"

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[clark411]

There's this strange phenomenon where people tend to try to catch peeks of the carnage caused by major accidents as they drive past. Basically, a person at -74 gets this kind of curiosity from gods.

 

[Mista Collins]

-74 hp? what is it? simple answer:

DEAD