What If...?

[Umbran]

I think that’s what I said.

Maybe it is what you meant to say, but the words... don't speak to how or why minds do or do not change. So no, you didn't say what I said.

Edit to add: It has little to do with the kind of person. It isn't like Person A will never change their mind, and Person B is always open to new ideas. Each of us is a mixed bag, and our willingness to change has to do with the topic, the person's emotional link to that topic, and how the new idea is positioned and presented. Each of us will thus be stubborn on some things, and easy to move on other things.

 

[Morrus]

Maybe it is what you meant to say, but the words... don't speak to how or why minds do or do not change. So no, you didn't say what I said.

Well Ok then.

 

[Rabulias]

There was at least one shot in the trailers of Dr Strange meeting Captain Carter:
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I had not seen that! Maybe they will tie the various alternate universes together in some way, especially as we approach the release date of Spider-Man: No Way Home and next year's Dr Strange film.

 

[Tonguez]

I liked the Iron Man nod with Stark making the battle suit for Rogers. I didn't like Carter's uniform. While in the MCU she's British instead of America, she was fighting for America while working for Americans with an American serum, etc. Stark giving her the Captain Britain uniform seemed off to me.

I think making a Union Jack uniform and shield is a very Stark thing to do, he’d do it partly to amuse himself and partly to as a gesture to Peggy - same as when he was happy to go through with the procedure when Peggy jumped into the converter.

As to the gender not making any difference, it was one 30 minute pilot. We know from trailers Peggy will be back so I’m willing to wait til then to see how things go.
Plus I’m not sure things haven’t changed - Peggy got the Teseract, Dominic Stark made a 1940s Iron Man suit, Bucky never became the Winter Soldier and Red Skull didnt go to Vormir. Small changes that each create new timelines in the multiverse

 

[Gradine]

I largely agree with Paul here. While some people are willing to change their opinions, many people just dig in when presented with contrary evidence. It’s the few that do who slowly drive change, shifting cultural values generation by generation.

What you're referring to is the Backfire Effect, which had a moment several years ago (The Oatmeal did a big comic that made the rounds, Adam Ruins Everything also promoted it) but is generally considered to be a very rare phenomenon after numerous attempts to replicate the original experiment failed to produce much of any examples of it actually happening.

People can be reluctant to accept evidence that contradicts their previous beliefs, but the digging in and shutting down hypothesized by the Backfire Effect is actually exceedingly rare

 

[Gradine]

Also I just watched the first episode and I thought it was rad as hell

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

What you're referring to is the Backfire Effect, which had a moment several years ago (The Oatmeal did a big comic that made the rounds, Adam Ruins Everything also promoted it) but is generally considered to be a very rare phenomenon after numerous attempts to replicate the original experiment failed to produce much of any examples of it actually happening.

People can be reluctant to accept evidence that contradicts their previous beliefs, but the digging in and shutting down hypothesized by the Backfire Effect is actually exceedingly rare

I think it’s context dependent: it’s relatively common in alternative dispute resolution, ESPECIALLY in family law mediations. Every last one of my instructors had tales of when mediations suddenly imploded when at least one party shut down, sending the case back into the courts.

Hell- I’ve seen it in my own family in particular (pre-2016) political discussions. AFAIK, the opinions expressed then have NOT changed, despite presentations of actual evidence contra her beliefs. And this is in someone I KNOW can change her mind because I’ve seen her public mea culpas.

 

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[Maxperson]

People can be reluctant to accept evidence that contradicts their previous beliefs, but the digging in and shutting down hypothesized by the Backfire Effect is actually exceedingly rare

I'm pretty sure we're seeing it on a large scale with all those who are digging in and refusing to be vaccinated, even after nearly being killed by Covid or having close friends/family killed by Covid.

 

[Tonguez]

I'm pretty sure we're seeing it on a large scale with all those who are digging in and refusing to be vaccinated, even after nearly being killed by Covid or having close friends/family killed by Covid.

Is it the same phenomena where people see a thread topic but are compelled to ignore it in favour of further derailment?

have minds changed so much that the thread topic is now irrelevant?