What If...?

[Tonguez]

Love the episode. As an old fan of the Captain Britain character, he only thing that would have nudged it a little higher would have been Peggy taking on the name Captain Britain. Though I can certainly understand staying away from that name if Marvel is batting around ideas of using the characters from the Captain Britain stores in the future since they are so different.

Agent Braddock was named dropped in Endgame as a 1970s Shield Agent, so we might yet get to see Captain Britain in action, having a new Excalibur team appear in future could be fun.

happens to the best of us

Peggy is NOT Steve Rogers. She might choose the same side, on signing, but she does not have his moral compass for WHY she'd do it. As noted by how much more brutal she was as Captain Carter. She probably isn't worthy to wield Mjolnir. Not like Steve was.

I'm still not sure what it means to be Worthy from Mjolnirs perspective, Steve and Vision are nothing like Thor, Even Party Thor gets to wield the hammer.

 

[Janx]

I'm still not sure what it means to be Worthy from Mjolnirs perspective, Steve and Vision are nothing like Thor, Even Party Thor gets to wield the hammer.

Oddly enough, I suspect Steve and Vision are the Archtype of worthiness and it is Thor who is skirting the limit.

 

[Deset Gled]

The order for the MCU now stands: ...

3.) Iron Man

4.) Iron Man 2

5.) Thor

6.) The Avengers

Shouldn't "The Incredible Hulk" be in here? I always thought that movie was considered canon. The actor switched, but it's events still happened in the MCU.

 

[Rabulias]

Shouldn't "The Incredible Hulk" be in here? I always thought that movie was considered canon. The actor switched, but it's events still happened in the MCU.

I think that list is only the Disney films. Note the Spider-Man films are not included either.

 

[billd91]

I think that list is only the Disney films. Note the Spider-Man films are not included either.

Yeah, the Incredible Hulk is a bit of a weird one since it was Marvel, but distributed via Universal. That's why they can't include it on Disney+'s timeline. So it's MCU canon, but still administratively separate (with rights and relationships complicated enough to keep any stand-alone Hulk sequel off the table).

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Shouldn't "The Incredible Hulk" be in here? I always thought that movie was considered canon. The actor switched, but it's events still happened in the MCU.

According to Disney/Marvel, the MCU started with the first Iron Man movie. Obviously, there were other movies before that, but none of them are MCU canon. unless they decide to bring elements back in, like how Abomination is going to show up again, played by the same actor.

And, of course, with the birth of the Multiverse, people can now argue endlessly about where in the MCU all other films with Marvel characters could fit.

 

[billd91]

According to Disney/Marvel, the MCU started with the first Iron Man movie. Obviously, there were other movies before that, but none of them are MCU canon. unless they decide to bring elements back in, like how Abomination is going to show up again, played by the same actor.

And, of course, with the birth of the Multiverse, people can now argue endlessly about where in the MCU all other films with Marvel characters could fit.

Point of clarification:
The Incredible Hulk, the MCU movie that released in 2008 after Iron Man, is the one that most of us seem to be talking about here. Hulk, released in 2003, directed by Ang Lee, and starring Eric Bana, would not be considered canonical. But The Incredible Hulk, released in 2008 a couple of months after Iron Man, directed by Louis Leterrier, and starring Ed Norton, would still be canonical.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Point of clarification:
The Incredible Hulk, the MCU movie that released in 2008 after Iron Man, is the one that most of us seem to be talking about here. Hulk, released in 2003, directed by Ang Lee, and starring Eric Bana, would not be considered canonical. But The Incredible Hulk, released in 2008 a couple of months after Iron Man, directed by Louis Leterrier, and starring Ed Norton, would still be canonical.

I have never even watched that version because I had always understood it was not part of the MCU and not really worth it either. lol

 

[Tonguez]

I have never even watched that version because I had always understood it was not part of the MCU and not really worth it either. lol

Nortons Hulk is directly referenced in the Avengers movie when Banner talks about trying to put a bullet in his head but “the other guy” just spat the bullet out. The abomination and General Ross are the other links.
The movie isnt as bad as people make out, its better than IM 3 or Thor 3 but yeah the rights are weird.
Hulk should have been a monster movie, unfortunately they tried to make him a superhero instead

 

[trappedslider]

Nortons Hulk is directly referenced in the Avengers movie when Banner talks about trying to put a bullet in his head but “the other guy” just spat the bullet out. The abomination and General Ross are the other links.
The movie isnt as bad as people make out, its better than IM 3 or Thor 3 but yeah the rights are weird.
Hulk should have been a monster movie, unfortunately they tried to make him a superhero instead

Indeed the abomination is even in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings.