Swarmkeeper
Hero
Ah, understood. I do find these discussions more fruitful when we disregard what might happen with jerks at the table (spoiler: they can ruin anything and no set of rules is going to stop them... and.... their behavior should be dealt with away from the table). Instead, these discussions provide more value, IMO, when we talk about how we run our games with people who strive to play in good faith.I should have clarified that I would not make them roll just for the heck of it but when the situation can call for it. Let’s just say that in all my years of playing, I had to deal with powerplayers that dropped the knowledge and social stats (not talking exclusively with DnD here) to boost their physical ones and then expected to just roleplay out of the need to use the knowledge and social skills, so I had to adapt to these situations and make those players realise that there can be consequences to neglecting the knowledge and social attributes and that it’s not because they, as a player, know stuff that their character also knows it. Here again, it’s all about the intention of the player.
Luckily, I don’t have to deal with that kind of players now, the people I game with are experienced enough to not drop a stats just to boost another and will roleplay accordingly to how they built their characters.
So we agree: the DM should call for rolls when appropriate. If a player with a low stat wants to risk the wrath of the d20 by trying something uncertain that will likely require a roll with that weak stat, so be it.