What is the best Mystic Eye/Thunderhead Games product?

Which Mystic Eye/Thunderhead Games product do you believe is the best?

  • Bluffside

    Votes: 27 39.7%
  • Siege on Ebonring Keep

    Votes: 8 11.8%
  • Guilds and Adventurers

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • The Hunt: Rise of Evil worldbook

    Votes: 5 7.4%
  • The Pit of Loch-Durnan

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • Foul Locales: Beyond the Walls

    Votes: 5 7.4%
  • The Deep

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Artificer's Handbook

    Votes: 7 10.3%
  • Nightmares & Dreamscapes

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 10.3%

  • Poll closed .

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My vote.. Other: As in the Book that has yet to be released, something to look forward too ;)
 
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Bluffside is the shizit on a silver stick. I plan on using it as a basecamp for all my adventures. It is the City of Greyhawk for D20
 

Of the books I have not worked on

Of the books I have not worked on, I would say it is a strong tie between bluffside and the hunt.

Bluffside had so much content it was insane. A few of the new game content were out of balance, but overall it was just so much quality material in such a great package (With that great map).

The Hunt has a great feel and Dunreth is one of the the most playable areas in a campaign setting book I have found. The Hunt also had a lot of great playable new game content (even if the merchant and samurai were over-balanced). I think the witch and shaman did a great job of capturing the feel of the classes, they were not overly complex or just knock offs of the other divine classes.

Of the books I have gotten the chance to work on, they are all good. :)

However I honestly feel Pantheons & Pagan Faiths offers the most solid mix of new game play content (it rivals the artificers handbook for crunch) and story/flavor with tons of new class abilities, feats, spells, and a complete pantheon.

It will be one of only a very few books I use in my personal campaign.

See ya,
Ken Shannon
 


Thanks all!
We are watching :cool: .
We love Bluffside and if it sold better it would have been better supported. Sigil is doing a pdf adventure/supplement for Bluffside and has a licensing agreement with us so it will be official. We will keep ya posted, as for pdf expansions, they may come.

We have a busy schedule, we have:
Pantheons and Pagan Faiths: A Divine Class Sourcebook (Out in about 3 weeks)
Dimitri's Journal: A Graphic Novel
Foul Locales: For Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed
Fall of Man

And a d20 Future Setting written by Rodney Thompson, an author of d20 Futures!!!!!!!!
 

Hey...its Hal!!!

Thanks Hal for stopping by and throwing some thoughts out there. Its good to know that the people at MEG are actually checking out this thread and the results of the poll. All of those new products sound like they will be very good and I look forward to them.

Speaking as a huge Bluffside fan, what exactly has to happen for the community to get more Bluffside products? You said that "..if it had sold better, it would have been better supported." Isnt the reverse of that also true, that "...if it had been better supported, it would have sold better?" Bluffside is so rich for expansion, whether it be city district books to expansions on the different power groups in the city to more development of the Tower or the Ancient City.

You guys could even expand the world where Bluffside is located and detail the surrounding areas or even create a new kingdom that has connections to the city in some way. Heck, why not use your city building talents and develop 2 or 3 smaller cities from the surrounding areas and put them all in the same book.

Im not trying to say that MEG doesnt put out great products, as I am a huge fan of the products. All I am suggesting is Bluffside went so long without support, maybe a fresh injection of products geared around it might spur something in the line, and help revitalize the best city book released for d20.

Just some thoughts from a huge fan. Thanks.

Rabid Gerbil
"I'm coming for ya"
 


Rabid Gerbil said:
Thanks Hal for stopping by and throwing some thoughts out there. Its good to know that the people at MEG are actually checking out this thread and the results of the poll. All of those new products sound like they will be very good and I look forward to them.

Speaking as a huge Bluffside fan, what exactly has to happen for the community to get more Bluffside products? You said that "..if it had sold better, it would have been better supported." Isnt the reverse of that also true, that "...if it had been better supported, it would have sold better?" Bluffside is so rich for expansion, whether it be city district books to expansions on the different power groups in the city to more development of the Tower or the Ancient City.

You guys could even expand the world where Bluffside is located and detail the surrounding areas or even create a new kingdom that has connections to the city in some way. Heck, why not use your city building talents and develop 2 or 3 smaller cities from the surrounding areas and put them all in the same book.

Im not trying to say that MEG doesnt put out great products, as I am a huge fan of the products. All I am suggesting is Bluffside went so long without support, maybe a fresh injection of products geared around it might spur something in the line, and help revitalize the best city book released for d20.

Just some thoughts from a huge fan. Thanks.

Rabid Gerbil
"I'm coming for ya"

Thanks RG, and that is a catch 22, we can't afford to put out product that only do OK, we need to keep up with product lines that show support will sell----As for expanding the world of Bluffside, we have made Dry Land: Empires of the Dragon Sand as well as The Deep both "Bluffside ready", so we have expanded the world and both items did OK, not "wow, we need to keep going!". So we are filling holes in lines that have sold better, you may see some pdf support for Bluffside but as for now... we need to put the writers on other lines/projects.

As for what would it take...I do not know, a couple thousand more sales :cool:, it was a HUGE effort to make that book, it was daunting, so doing another one is a scary thought, we could do it but the time/money it takes is incredible, just making and stat checking over 100 NPC's was enough to make the perfect Charles Plemons almost crack :confused: .

Looking forward to more thoughts as well.
 
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MEG, One question

When you say Bluffside didn't sell as well as you might like, does that mean that it sold worse than others, or is it that Bluffside had a high production cost and didn't sell as well in relation to that?

From the results in this poll, it seems quite popular (I have one sitting on my bookshelf).
 

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