What is the Swordmage role? who is martial controller?

[Bold or Stupid]

Closest thing to a Martial Controller is the Archery Ranger. I sort of wish they'd worked out class names and divided the Ranger into two classes.

Though the beast form druid powers could give a ponter too how to do a Martial controller.

 

[Starglim]

Who is in the role of martial controller?

Swordmage, fighter and rogue, at least, each get some controller-like effects, especially when using alchemical items and while their dailies last. There is no one martial class yet that concentrates on the role.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

This thread feels like "how is babby formed?"

 

[Staffan]

WOTC has said that we shouldn't expect a 1:1 relation between classes and the source/role grid, pointing at the martial striker as the example of a source/role that has multiple classes filling the slot, and the martial controller as one that might not get any.

 

[TwinBahamut]

The Swordmage is an Arcane Defender, and there is no Martial Controller yet.

I still think that a Martial Controller is possible. If nothing else, a more aggressive cousin to the Warlord, a charismatic and frightening warrior trained to terrify his enemies and break their will to fight, would work pretty well as a Controller. Fear Auras, Kiai Shouts, blows that strike fear into anyone that sees it connect, etc. Such a class is on my short list of ideas for what a Samurai class might look like, actually. Alternatively, I think a dedicated mounted soldier class may work as a Controller.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

You might check this thread out.

It's at least the most sophisticated breakdown of the martial controller I've seen.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

The Swordmage is an Arcane Defender, and there is no Martial Controller yet.

I still think that a Martial Controller is possible. If nothing else, a more aggressive cousin to the Warlord, a charismatic and frightening warrior trained to terrify his enemies and break their will to fight, would work pretty well as a Controller. Fear Auras, Kiai Shouts, blows that strike fear into anyone that sees it connect, etc. Such a class is on my short list of ideas for what a Samurai class might look like, actually. Alternatively, I think a dedicated mounted soldier class may work as a Controller.

Well, I think the terrifying kiai shouts would work more into the Ki Power Source.

But working a mounted soldier into a controller would be interesting.

It's just important to recognize that each class role is engineered with both a strength and a dependency.

As far as we know that breakdown for the controller is:

Strength - cheap area attacks/gets to roll a lot of attack rolls.
Dependency - needs a front line

So if you can make a Cavalier class that has low capacity for stickiness and a real vulnerability to getting swarmed then I am on-board for martial controller status.