Faolyn
(she/her)
Ish. You didn't go over things like the AC and hp of the walls and stuff like that, which is what I'm guessing @CleverNickName wants to know in order to make a mass combat/siege warfare system.
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They don't have AC and hp, and we don't have a mass combat/siege warfare system.
Faolyn
(she/her)
Right--and I don't need one either--but I was guessing that's what CleverNickName wanted.They don't have AC and hp, and we don't have a mass combat/siege warfare system.
Something my players pointed out to me when I made the statement "all big fighters are just going to wear plate". If you follow 5e treasure guidelines, which is very well summarized in this thread: D&D 5E - Deconstructing 5e: Typical Wealth by Level
A typical 5e character will not have enough money to afford plate armor until mid 5th or 6th level. That's a major chunk of the typical adventuring career where you don't have access to the highest end heavy armor. You could argue Splint is the actual "heavy armor standard" for most of the typical character career.
Horwath
Legend
unless your players loot the plate armor from a fallen enemy, or you will avoid all enemies with plate armor until 5th level?
Faolyn
(she/her)
Or the DM is the type to insist plate needs to be sized to the wearer.
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
Yeah, pretty much. I'm looking for a subset of rules that will let me update and play some of the classic BECM modules with mass combat in them (CM1, "Test of the Warlords" and X10, "Red Arrow Black Shield" for example.) Not an entirely different game; just something that would work seamlessly (or at least be compatible) with the 5E rules.They don't have AC and hp, and we don't have a mass combat/siege warfare system.
Right--and I don't need one either--but I was guessing that's what CleverNickName wanted.
That style of game is considered outdated, though, and probably not coming back anytime soon. Nowadays, gold is to be spent on magic items, not castles, and the path to power isn't through the conquest of nations or the strength of armies, but through 9th level spells and ancient McGuffins. sigh And that's fun too, just...not what I'm looking for.
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Faolyn
(she/her)
Well, it looks like strongholds will have gold cost.
It probably wouldn't be too hard to assign AC and hp values to these buildings; that info is in the DMG. A regular stone wall has AC 17, and a 10 x 10 section would be considered resilient (5d10 hp), and it's going to be immune to poison and psychic damage, and probably at least resistant to most other damage types. You can assign a damage threshold to a wall as well. The DMG also has stats for siege weapons.
The sections on followers might end up being useful for modding armies as well.
Tinker-TDC
Explorer
Have you looked at the Colville books?
Strongholds and Followers is available presently with a nice set of Stronghold rules and later this year (if I'm not mistaken) they're releasing Kingdoms and Warfare which specifically has a mass combat system designed to fit into 5e.
ArmoredSaint77
Explorer
This still has me super excited and I'm dying to see what it's going to look like.
