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[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Add on to that the only "stable" jobs are going to the gladiator pits for other's entertainment or joining the army to fight the unending wars for the Sorcerer-Kings...both ones where job opportunities are constantly appearing (and the pay is supposedly great!).

If you don't want the "safe" job of the military or the gladiator pits, what are you going to do, be a freelance adventurer?

 

[Kurotowa]

If you don't want the "safe" job of the military or the gladiator pits, what are you going to do, be a freelance adventurer?

I hear that adventurers... take jobs unofficially. Ones that aren't posted to the official job boards after being vetted by the Sorcerer-King's templars. Doing all sorts of unapproved things for clients when they can't even be sure they'll be paid at the end. How scandalous.

Wait a second. Did we just reinvent Shadowrun?

 

[ECMO3]

EDIT - What is seemingly confusing you here I think is the apparent projection of your own opinions (or opinions you think people have) about religion, whereas the game setting absolutely does not say that. The main reason the gods are gone is so there's nobody to save you, and you can't just wait or write them a nice apology letter so they come back like Dragonlance. You're going to have to save yourselves! You can't just pray. All the "white knights" (Paladins) are dead and gone (very grunge). You - YOU - need to act to destroy the Sorcerer-Kings. No-one is going to do it for you and there's no chance of outside help.

I think the game setting does say that and DND shorts mentioned it in his recent evaluation on the setting as well, so while it is my opinion, it is not only my opinion.

 

[ECMO3]

Templars definitely seem like a Paladin subclass to me in a 5E context. Probably the only Paladin subclass (though yeah maybe genie-based ones also work so long as the Templars are out to get them).

I don't think Dark Sun works as Dark Sun unless you do lock out some options though. Hopefully if they don't half-ass the hell out of this and just do "Dark Sun: Don't Offend The Billionaires Edition", but any kind of real Dark Sun (the defining features of that being "Wake up gladiator, we've got a sorcerer-king to kill" and "powerful people ruined the world from greed and lust for power") should probably list the subclasses which make sense for the setting, before the immediate and inevitable disclaimer that obviously DMs can allow what they like in their actual game. Also they need to keep "No Clerics" as the default (again actual tables can do what they want). It's actually easier with 5E as it's insanely easier to heal up.

If they stay true to the setting the prevalent subclasses would be evil-oriented (Draconic Sorcerers and Defiler Wizards) and there is also a clear eugenics theme to the whole Mul lineage.

You can do away with these things, but you are not left with much Dark Sun.

FWIW I am playing a 5E Darksun campaign right now, the second of two I played since the 2024 rules came out, but it has all the things the original darksun had (PCs as slaves, Muls, canibal PC halflings etc). The message boards today are also hyper-focused on balance, which is another issue in Darksun because defiling has concrete mechanical advantage. If you are not defiling you are knowingly and purposely nerfing yourself.

I don't see how Darksun maintains the flavor of the original if you get rid of those elements and I don't see WOTC keeping them either.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I think the game setting does say that and DND shorts mentioned it in his recent evaluation on the setting as well, so while it is my opinion, it is not only my opinion.

Dude lol. D&D Shorts agrees with you?

Who next, a luminary such as Howard Stern?

Like D&D Shorts is great if you want weird D&D gossip, especially a couple of years ago. But his takes on D&D subjects tend to be well, very much hotter than the surface of Athas, that's for sure, and often just absolutely provably wrong, because he is like, relatively young but sometimes talking about stuff from before his time and more than a little bit prone to just going off in flights of fancy.

and there is also a clear eugenics theme to the whole Mul lineage

They already changed that in 4E Dark Sun, no chance they go back to the 2E take.

You can do away with these things, but you are not left with much Dark Sun.

Look man, if you think the "main theme" of Dark Sun is "If you don't have gods, the world is hell and you are evil!", then yeah, I could see believing that another "major" theme of Dark Sun was people-breeding, but again, I don't think you're helping your position of "I KNOW WHAT DARK SUN IS ABOUT!!!" by saying that lol. I'm sorry this is genuinely making me laugh a lot IRL, no hate, you do you! If it's what you like, it's what you like!

 

[ECMO3]

Dude lol. D&D Shorts agrees with you?

Who next, a luminary such as Howard Stern?

Like D&D Shorts is great if you want weird D&D gossip, especially a couple of years ago. But his takes on D&D subjects tend to be well, very much hotter than the surface of Athas, that's for sure, and often just absolutely provably wrong, because he is like, relatively young but sometimes talking about stuff from before his time and more than a little bit prone to just going off in flights of fancy.


They already changed that in 4E Dark Sun, no chance they go back to the 2E take.


Look man, if you think the "main theme" of Dark Sun is "If you don't have gods, the world is hell and you are evil!", then yeah, I could see believing that another "major" theme of Dark Sun was people-breeding, but again, I don't think you're helping your position of "I KNOW WHAT DARK SUN IS ABOUT!!!" by saying that lol. I'm sorry this is genuinely making me laugh a lot IRL, no hate, you do you! If it's what you like, it's what you like!

How about this:

We'll just see if they release another Darksun for 5E and if they don't then I'm right.

In the unlikely event they do release a new Darksun and people come on here and whine that it is not real Darksun, then I am still right.

If they release it and everyone on here agrees it is real, accurate reinterpretation of Darksun then you are right and I am wrong.

Sound fair? If so I will check back with you in another year.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

We'll just see if they release another Darksun for 5E and if they don't I'm right.

In the unlikely event they do release a new Darksun and people come on here and whine that it is not a faithful reinterpretation, then I am still right.

LOL what?

No. Both those scenarios mean you're wrong. In fact, in the second scenario, if WotC release a "faithful interpretation" of YOUR ideas of what Dark Sun is about, then I'd absolutely be saying "That's not a faithful interpretation", so if people are saying that, it's more likely they followed your ideas lol.

 

[ECMO3]

LOL what?

No. Both those scenarios mean you're wrong. In fact, in the second scenario, if WotC release a "faithful interpretation" of YOUR ideas of what Dark Sun is about, then I'd absolutely be saying "That's not a faithful interpretation", so if people are saying that, it's more likely they followed your ideas lol.

Ok here is the first video that came up when I googled Darksun video:


Time 2:10: "While Dragonlance complain about their evil goddes, at least they have gods""

It literally took me like 5 minutes to find that.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Ok here is the first video that came up when I googled Darksun video:


Time 2:10: "While Dragonlance complain they about their evil goddes, at least they have gods""

It literally took me like 5 minutes to find that.

I get that you're focused on this, and can dig up videos by probably Gen Z guys which mention it in passing, but it isn't a thing bro. You're not going to make 'fetch' happen here. Why don't you go to the Dark Sun subreddit and explain to them how the #1 theme of Dark Sun is that the world sucks because the gods are dead, and see what happens. It's here: Reddit - The heart of the internet

 

[ECMO3]

so if people are saying that, it's more likely they followed your ideas lol.

Those other people have the same opinion as me then!

Or is your position that only your opinion is a real opinion?