D&D (2024) When are we getting the second playtest document?

[Micah Sweet]

Please don't turn 5e into level up...

... we already have level up, and it is a good game which is slightly more complex than core 5e.

We still need a simpler core 5e. Having 2 level ups makes one redundant.

I'm right there with you, although I don't need 5e anymore. I just don't think WotC will "fix" the fighter the way some people here want. They have no financial motivation to do so.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I'm right there with you, although I don't need 5e anymore. I just don't think WotC will "fix" the fighter the way some people here want. They have no financial motivation to do so.

The already did a fix. A good fix with the new grapple and shove rules.

And they buffed str and versatile in one go.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The already did a fix. A good fix with the new grapple and shove rules.

And they buffed str and versatile in one go.

You're right. Fighter fixed forever. No one needs to talk about this ever again.

 

[Faolyn]

Background Feats can do a lot of the legwork here, and provide more variety of individual expression.

So then you have to sacrifice a potentially useful feat for something to flavor your choice in race. Effectively, a tax on half-races.

 

[Faolyn]

I'm right there with you, although I don't need 5e anymore. I just don't think WotC will "fix" the fighter the way some people here want. They have no financial motivation to do so.

Actually, they do have financial reasons to change the fighter: people aren't going to want to buy a game that's exactly like the old game, because who wants to shell out $40 or more for a book that doesn't change what you want changed?

If they don't "fix" the fighter (or any other class or race or ability), it will be because of internal reasons, a misunderstanding of what players want, because just as many or more players want it the original way as want it changed, or out of a desire to keep it simple--not because of financial reasons.

 

[Gorck]

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but I'm new around here. What's broken about the Fighter?

 

[eyeheartawk]

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but I'm new around here. What's broken about the Fighter?

 

[ersatzphil]

I actually kinda feel like the proposed rules are closer to Blood quantum, actually. Doesn’t matter what the other parents background is, you are always one race and only one race.

Just one drop is all it takes.

No. Absolutely not. I am both things. The end.

I... man, that's a hell of an argument. I'd seriously recommend putting that verbatim in the playtest feedback.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Please don't turn 5e into level up...

I don't think there's any danger of it happening, no matter how many times it's mentioned on the 1D&D forum, any more than people posting that "Android did it first" on articles about iPhones will get Apple to give up on iOS.

 

[MarkB]

I'm an elf, but my grandfather was an orc and somewhere I had a Dragonborn ancestor:

I can pick one elf, orc and dragonborn trait. I don't think its mechanically hard to do if its structured right.

So basically, as with backgrounds, the default option is Custom Race, and then there's a list of Example Races such as humans, elves, dragonborn and tieflings. It's doable, certainly, but I don't think they'd have much luck selling it to the playerbase at large.