D&D General When did D&D gods first rely on their worshipers?

[Rob Kuntz]

I think it's also possible that you are more literal-minded than most.

Bugs Bunny: "Umm. Could be..."

dream
noun

3 he realized his childhood dream: ambition, aspiration, hope; goal, aim, objective, grail, intention, intent, target; desire, wish, yearning; daydream, fantasy, pipe dream.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Bugs Bunny: "Umm. Could be..."

dream
noun

3 he realized his childhood dream: ambition, aspiration, hope; goal, aim, objective, grail, intention, intent, target; desire, wish, yearning; daydream, fantasy, pipe dream.

if dream is similar to hope I would infer you mean lie or deception as those seem closely related concepts to hope thought out my life.

 

[MGibster]

Pratchett was working without the benefit of the World Wide Web in 1992, so he was essentially prisoner to whatever theologians he could get to answer his questions by phone.

I've never been to Great Britain but I'll wager they have some cracking libraries over there.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I've never been to Great Britain but I'll wager they have some cracking libraries over there.

really depends on where you live in it some cities or important towns yes, but most are just basic like my town's.

 

[Rob Kuntz]

if dream is similar to hope I would infer you mean lie or deception as those seem closely related concepts to hope thought out my life.

Shrug. Picking amongst the cherries. Ambition? Anyway, I am inferring nothing, just noting what lexicographers have tracked to their lairs over time.

 

[dave2008]

No, not true. It is absolutely stated in pre-Avatar Trilogy materials that the gods need worship (1981's "Down-to-Earth Divinity" and the 1e FRCS, for example, both written long before Ao was invented). Similarly, later works such as Faiths & Avatars establish that gods would decline and die from lack of worship before the Time of Troubles, most famously in the case of Amaunator.

It is true that in the novel Waterdeep (the third book of the Avatar Trilogy), the speech Ao gives includes the declaration that he's imposing the need for worship as a new punishment for the gods. This is a continuity screw-up by the author and editors of that book, and should be ignored given the consistent evidence, both pre- and post-Avatar publication, that the worship reliance existed pre-ToT.

Except for Ao correct? I don't think any mortals worship AO.

 

[Faolyn]

Except for Ao correct? I don't think any mortals worship AO.

Maybe the gods worship Ao, and he gets his power from them?

 

[jasper]

I never got this line of logic because how did they come about to begin with? they could not have created any one thus aside from getting power why worship them?

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[TheSword]

I'd argue that Discworld might be the fantasy series with the most material to offer DMs, whether it's thinking through the consequences of elements of the world or just a cast of stock characters to pull from for home games. (I'm sure there are a few DMs who have a recurring street vendor NPC in their games who aren't Discworld readers, but Pratchett shows off why you should have one, or a similar recurring bottom feeder urban NPC, if you don't.)

I find WFRP is massively reminiscent of Prachett. Particularly the writing of Graeme Davis. It’s the sarcastic British humour + a bit of whimsy.

 

[Mind of tempest]

ET tonight, Fan magizines, fan fiction, yes gawds are just soap opera cast members with epic pr.

ah, that makes sense but that makes me like them even less.