When did you enjoy 3.x?

[Fallen Seraph]

Off-Topic:

Really? I have found Promethean is one of the best game to run in solid chunks, say 4 months, once a week games. Since it gets the players much more attached to their characters and the plot, and it sucks to have the players leave their characters hanging near their Great Work.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

Off-Topic:

Really? I have found Promethean is one of the best game to run in solid chunks, say 4 months, once a week games. Since it gets the players much more attached to their characters and the plot, and it sucks to have the players leave their characters hanging near their Great Work.

Er, let me clarify - once you start a game, you want to finish that sucker, irregardless of how long it takes, but you don't play a second Promethean game for a pretty extended time after that.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Er, let me clarify - once you start a game, you want to finish that sucker, irregardless of how long it takes, but you don't play a second Promethean game for a pretty extended time after that.

Ahh, lol, gotcha. Thought you meant like, sporadic sparse. You know, one week play, then don't play it for three weeks, then another week of play

Yeah same thing here for Promethean. Though I have done one game where it started right after, but it was the Prometheans as Mortals now dealing with being humans (but even then we had a 2 week breather).

 

[Ipissimus]

I found there was a sweet spot in 3.x around level 5-10 where everyone feels useful, the mathematics isn't too hard, everyone has enough magic items but not so many they forget most of them and running the monsters isn't too simple or as big a chore.

Lower than five and everyone sorta feels like their character sucks. After 10th, things start to get a bit screwy and after 15th monsters are either gnats or the Death Star.

but for five PC levels, you get a fairly blissful experience. Our last campaign got to 26th level, though, before I basically had to call it quits DMing and we moved on to Shadowrun. I'd love to do a WoD game myself but my players aren't into horror. Whatcha gonna do, right?

 

[HeavenShallBurn]

I still enjoy 3e and don't anticipate any change.

 

[gribble]

Two questions here. When did I enjoy 3.x? Last night.

I'm playing in a regular 3.x game at the moment, and probably will continue to play 3.x after 4e is released. Does that mean I'm a 4e hater? Not at all. From everything I've read, I'm sure 4e will be a very good fantasy/superhero game, which I will undoubtedly play and enjoy. But if I want to play what (to me at least) is really D&D, I'll play 3.x (or more likely PRPG).

What did I enjoy about 3.x? Quite frankly, that it was a great game, IMO far superior to not only previous versions of D&D, but also to other RPGs that were around at the time. It was pretty much single-handedly responsible for the current gaming renaissance (at least in conjunction with the OGL). I don't get what the 3.x bashers (particularly the WotC staffers) are smoking to be honest. Was it perfect? Of course not, and neither will 4e be for that matter, but it certainly wasn't this unholy abomination of a game that WotC and the 4e fanboys seem to have turned it into over the last 6 months or so. I've been playing and/or running it pretty much every week since the day it was released, from first level right up into epic, and by and large I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

Sorry for the rant, but frankly I just don't get the 3.x/4e hate. They're both different games, they both have different strengths and weaknesses, and I know I for one will be playing both (depending on what sort of game I feel like playing).

 

[Frostmarrow]

I was amazed by the coherency of 3rd edition and how it managed to cover almost everything. By and by I started to realise that all things are not meant to be codified.

Once I had the PHB in my hands I knew there was enough material in that book alone to keep me playing for years. And I did.

My pet peeve was always the ranger and the best campaign I played in was Freeport. The best campaign I DMed was Red Hand of Doom.

 

[Steely Dan]

I can still enjoy 3rd Ed, but I became a bit disillusioned after DMing it consistently for over 2 years – the cracks really started to show.

At this point I would rather DM Basic, 1st Ed, or 2d Ed.

 

[Plane Sailing]

When I read "why 3.x sucks and 4E will solve it all", I sometimes wonder if the poster enjoyed 3.x at all. Ultimately, I know they had too: like couples before a divorce, they forget what brought them together in the first place.

So, for you folks switching to 4E, what did you enjoy when you first started playing 3.x?

I don't know if I'm the target audience for your question, but from the last sentence I might be.

I don't think 3e sucks. I love playing 3e games (admittedly my favourite games have been at around the 3rd-8th level mark). I prefer 3e to previous editions of D&D I've played in terms of mechanics and stuff.

However, I'm switching to 4e because from what I've seen I think I'm going to enjoy it more.

I think that much WotC developer talk is unfairly characterised as '3e sucks' when what they are actually saying is that they think they have identified some of the places where 3e can be most improved.

Cheers

 

[vagabundo]

I loved a lot of 3e, in theory. But it failed me in practice. It took a long long time for me to realise it was slowly killing my will to DM.

Fortunately my pre-4e lite games has given back my love for the game.