Where are these prerequisites?

[Dannyalcatraz]

OK...going through the BoED looking up feats and found some oddities.

Sanctify Ki Strike requires Ki Strike (Lawful), and Holy Ki Strike requires Ki Strike (Holy), yet I cannot find these. Anyone have a clue?

 

[Shin Okada]

Ki Strike (Lawful) is a class ability of monk (at 10th-level).

I don't know about Ki Strike (Holy). Maybe in the BoED itself as a feat or a class ability of some prestige class?

 

[andargor]

What does the errata say?

EDIT: Hmmm, no errata. My guess is that Holy Ki Strike gives Ki Strike (holy), and that the circular prereq is an error.

Andargor

 

[Particle_Man]

FAQ: replace ki strike (holy) with ki strike (lawful) in prerequisite, and it should be an ok feat (albeit only open to 10th level exalted monks).

 

[RigaMortus2]

Is it me, or does anyone else seem to think BoED is mostly useful for Monks. Look at the Vow feats, I don't see many Paladins taking them.

 

[saucercrab]

FAQ: replace ki strike (holy) with ki strike (lawful) in prerequisite, and it should be an ok feat (albeit only open to 10th level exalted monks).

I can't find that in any of my FAQ files. Where is it stated?

And the problem with that, is that a single-classed monk cannot enter the initiate of pistis sophia (sp?) PrC until after 12th character level (meaning there's no way to reach 9th & 10th level before epic). Is there anyway to enter that PrC at 11th level or sooner?

I think the prerequisite for both should be ki strike (magic). Makes sense with my above concern, & makes the prerequisites more along the lines of the other sanctify feats.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

Is it me, or does anyone else seem to think BoED is mostly useful for Monks. Look at the Vow feats, I don't see many Paladins taking them.

Yes, the vow of poverty feat is most useful for monks - although most classes can use it and still be a very powerful character.

But, the other vow feats are well suited for any class that wants them. Why couldn't a paladin swear off alcohol, swear off marriage/sex, swear off violence, take an oath of obedience (heck, this one seems right up a paladin's alley!), or sweear off contact with dead flesh? Any paladin could do any of those things - as could any other class for that matter.

I'd actually love to run a game where the major feats the game was wound around were vows of poverty, obedience, and nonviolence. Fighters may not shine , but I think paladins and the rest of the classes could have fun!

I think the book has something to offer most characters. There are ways to improve combat and ways to even try and avoid violence altogether! There are new spellcasting angles and ways to improve skills. I think it is a great book - I just wish more people weren't so scared of the whole "Vow of Poverty stuff."

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, I'm seriously considering a Vow of Poverty PC, but I don't think my DM will allow it.

Still, one can dream.

While we're at it, the description of VoP seems to imply that the PC may not wear armor. Is this correct? I don't have a problem with it- I just want to know.

 

[Taloras]

Correct, the PC may not wear armor.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

See, that type of comment about the DM not allowing it is what I was talking about earlier. If you stack a VoP build up against a regular character and equip them with the proper amount of materials for their level, I'm not sure the VoP is all that unbalanced. Now, I understand that the VoP cannot be sundered, stolen, or someway otherwise seperated from the character like an item can. But is it really all that bad?

As a DM - I'd think that whole "Whew, no need to worry about exact treasure" thing because the characters will just give it all away would be kinda nice, too. Imagine how much easier it would be to be a party of 4 characters who all took the VoP.

This is, of course, just opinion and not stated fact. And I fully admit I could be wrong in my opinion. But my gut reaction doesn't feel like VoP characters are really all that off.