He actually makes a very good point. D&D is a fantasy rpg. If your biggest concern is numbers and a power curve there are far better options out there in video games and even professions.
Where Has All the Magic Gone?
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He actually makes a very good point. D&D is a fantasy rpg. If your biggest concern is numbers and a power curve there are far better options out there in video games and even professions.
Fifth Element
Legend
And if that's not his biggest concern?
Perhaps you could ask what his biggest concern is, rather than assuming?
Conversely, you may want to not assume I was referring specifically to him or to any one person but possibly outlining a general principle.
Keefe the Thief
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So you have to like interesting magic items with a fantastic backstory now? Poor fellows that just wanted a +2 sword, but play interesting characters.
I'm surprised at the number of obtuse martyrs on here. Try reading it again without the victim card. Either that or I can get my pliers and help you off the cross.
There are far better, more efficient games activities if number crunching is your thing. Odds Making, cards and gambling, for example. These don't have a fantasy base and are all about playing the numbers and can also be very good social activities. There are better gaming systems for numbers crunching too.
Once again, D&D is a fantasy RPG. If magic & mystery aren't your thing then you should be doing something else. If I'm a vegan you can bet I'm not sitting down at a rib joint regularly for the cole slaw. I'm not telling you what you have to like, just pointing out the (what should be) obvious.
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Well, that's your opinion. Little Raven's point is, however, factual: telling people why they are (or aren't) supposed to be playing D&D is a dead end. As soon as someone steps up and says "I don't play D&D because of mystery and wonder; I like character-optimization and tabletop skirmish combat", then Andor's declaration becomes just so much empty air.
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malraux
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Wanting to know if I should add + 3 or + 4 to a die roll is too extreme a form of number crunching?
Heck no, nor do I imply that. I might not have particularly liked Andor's original verbiage, but his reply to SPoD made a good point: D&D is a fantasy RPG. Magic & mystery are basic, core parts of the game.
Andor wasn't telling anyone they shouldn't be playing anything. He was pointing out a basic, core concept in the game. If you like table top skirmish combat as your primary enjoyment then there are a number of better games. D&D Miniatures was a better option. There's nothing wrong with wanting your character to be decent and whupping up on some baddies, nobody is saying there is. BUt if your emphasis is on tabletop skirmish combat, then there's one example of a more efficient option.
SPoD's original post was that those core concepts basically weren't important enough to have in the resource material and could be read as implying they weren't a big part of the game.
Well, they are. You know, wizards and monsters and that kind of stuff.
malraux
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So is rolling a d20 and adding numbers to it.
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