D&D 4E Where was 4e headed before it was canned?

[Parmandur]

Yup... reward pay off bingo... in the land of improvised chances.

1 in four odds to do something impossible for the average person is pretty fair...and the system is not constricted by rules, and is therefore free-form.

 

[Parmandur]

Nope you told me earlier that what i want to accomplish is going to be entirely based on the table and I really cannot predict what my using not magic character can do ... (you brought up Wuxia to emphasize it) You do not get your cake and eat it too. It looks to me like 5e ate the idea of predictable ability in anything but combat unless you are a spell caster which is perhaps why the Ranger is now dripping with spells

That's the beauty of 5E: possession of an already eaten cake. Yeah, baby!

Seriously, though, Ability checks are quite consistent and predictable in the aggregate, that's what makes dice and math fun. All without limiting what is possible by power rules.

 

[Garthanos]

That's the beauty of 5E: possession of an already eaten cake. Yeah, baby!

its called bile covered ick... dude not good do not re consume

1 in four odds to do something impossible for the average person is pretty fair...

No not buying it picture it fail fail fail oops maybe it worked once you know nobody bothers trying that when its actually important hence when it might be most interesting.

The wizard and the hundreds of spell casters in the game do it 100 percent.

 

[Garthanos]

1 in four odds to do something impossible for the average person is pretty fair..

3 out of 4 times your acrobatic stunt to save the character falling off the cliff results in death... but the spell never fails.

 

[Garthanos]

When it's most important use a spell so says D&D5e

 

[Parmandur]

3 out of 4 times your acrobatic stunt to save the character falling off the cliff results in death... but the spell never fails.

Man, in 5E spells fail all the time particularly when inconvenient.

 

[Parmandur]

When it's most important use a spell so says D&D5e

Spells are a limited resource, not always an option.

 

[Garthanos]

Man, in 5E spells fail all the time particularly when inconvenient.

Yippeee hope they fail 3 out of 4 times

 

[Garthanos]

Spells are a limited resource, not always an option.

Casters have to be more powerful because X yeh end of day exausted with not a single slot available that feather fall is wasted boo hooo hooo.

 

[Parmandur]

Yippeee hope they fail 3 out of 4 times

75% is for a Very Hard check assuming a plus 10. Most checks are lower, and there are things like Expertise and Reliable Talent: a mid-level Rogue needs a 25 to have a chance of failure for their focus, and they can auto-succeed DC 20 challenges all day, every day.